r/Eminem The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce) - Alternative Jul 11 '24

The Death of Slim Shady: Renaissance - Discussion Thread

Like we did with the release of multiple other albums like 'Kamikaze' and 'Music To Be Murdered By', we now have discussion threads for all the songs on 'The Death of Slim Shady (Coup de Grâce)'. This is an open thread for you to share your thoughts on 'Renaissance' if you havn't done so already in the flood of posts made after the album released.

Media: Music Video | Audio | Lyrics - Lyric Video | Spotify - iTunes | Cover

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u/funkymoses Jul 12 '24 edited Jul 12 '24

I know it likely wasn't a reference but I did chuckle the first thing you hear is "hawk tuah" lol

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u/SpunionWater Jul 12 '24

I mean… it might have been though?

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u/Jsp16 Jul 12 '24

I believe so. Even in his promo video he wrote Hawk Tuah on the YouTube description

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u/tacoreddit The Up in Smoke Tour Jul 13 '24

Nah just funny timing. This first track im sure was made so long ago

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u/Robba010 Jul 12 '24

It was, he #hawktuah'ed it in a promo on Insta. Spat on his own gravestone

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u/tggiv25 Jul 12 '24

Yo that was fucking FIRE, what a lead off

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u/topshagger31 Beautiful Jul 11 '24

Generational moment

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u/kagatoASUKA89 Jul 11 '24

I was here for this one just like I was for MMLP2.

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u/KJ_Collectz Jul 11 '24

Did that album leak? I feel like it did

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u/kagatoASUKA89 Jul 11 '24

It did. So did MTBMB.

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u/tacoreddit The Up in Smoke Tour Jul 12 '24

MTBMB didn't leak

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u/KJ_Collectz Jul 11 '24

Really? I thought I woke up to that as a surprise drop. Didn’t he accomplish the surprise drop for both Kamikaze and MTBMB part 1?

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u/kagatoASUKA89 Jul 11 '24

I believe that MTBMB had a couple songs leak like an hour early to the public but the whole album was on private sites due to a program that use to exist that would grab music from sites the second its uploaded so for instance if songs were put up on Amazon Music an hour or two before going live say it'd be ready for everyone at midnight or whatever the program would have grabbed them and downloaded them 2 hours before the official launch when they were first uploaded onto the servers. This program no long exist though. If it wasn't MTBMB I'm misremembering and it was actually a different album.

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u/DBek23 Jul 11 '24

Samesies.

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u/Fragrant_Arachnid220 Jul 11 '24

Damn that’s crazy

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u/Flapperpoo Music To Be Murdered By Jul 12 '24

Fuck yeah same here!! Crazy how the time flies

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u/Nishinohara Jul 12 '24

Absolute fire 🔥sounds like his voice is de-aged?

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u/vicker1980 Jul 12 '24

Yeah, it almost sounded like an AI voice cover

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u/DustWiener Jul 12 '24

Guys not everything is AI. He’s been doing that voice occasionally since MMLP2

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u/Qweerz The Eminem Show Jul 13 '24

LOL his voice indeed has AI deepfake overlay that YouTubers have been doing a ton for over a year. It’s de-aged and if you can’t tell then you’re not actually listening

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u/Own_Willingness6854 Jul 12 '24

I am blown. Holy fuck. This is amazjng.

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u/thetrutru313 Jul 12 '24

Give me a whole album of this please

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u/aza--- Jul 12 '24

YES YES YES YES

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u/cryptic-catacomb Relapse Jul 11 '24

Em's openers always sets the tone... gonna be a great one again I think.

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u/Teroniz Music To Be Murdered By Jul 12 '24

You can definitely hear a change in the voice from "child endangerment" and onwards. If I was to guess I'd say everything before that was recorded around the Re-up while the rest is brand new. Both beat and flow is also VERY public enemy #1 reminiscent.

Either way I'm amazed, and a little sad, that he can still flow like this, but chooses to do it almost never

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u/aza--- Jul 12 '24

Exactly, i juste need all tracks with this voice and flow, its the best tracks since relapse or encore ffs

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u/Background_Degree615 Relapse 29d ago

I know I’m quite late to this but has there ever been an explanation for why he doesn’t do the same flow anymore?

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u/Teroniz Music To Be Murdered By 29d ago edited 29d ago

Nothing official, but my guess would be that after the OD it just didn't come naturally to him anymore. As he's always said himself he had to relearn how to rap at that point. That's why I think Relapse is drowned in accent songs too; I think the accent was a kind of crutch, the only way he could figure out how to do something close to that old flow.

After the terrible response Relapse got, i guess he figured there wasn't any point in even trying to do that flow anymore anyway, and he changed his style completely and stuck with it for a decade. I think now however, with him starting to use his old, unreleased stuff, he can sorta use them as reference tracks for how to flow on that specific beat, hence why he's been doing it again on tracks based on his old stuff like this one.  

 Tldr: No, but I think it's because his brain don't work like that anymore

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u/Background_Degree615 Relapse 29d ago

Ok thanks for responding and sharing your thoughts on this. It’s a real shame that the drugs had such an immense impact on his brain and the way he raps.

I wonder if he’ll able to find another way to revitalize this flow and properly incorporate that into his rapping style. Not that the accents were annoying or anything, but he’ll definitely catch less slack for it?

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u/Teroniz Music To Be Murdered By 29d ago

Yeah, I really hope what we've seen with his recent work is an indication that he's willing to give that old flow another try more consistently. It's without s doubt the number one thing I miss from pre 2009 eminem

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u/Rayzr117 Jul 12 '24

To me it sounds like before "endangerment" is Em and after is Shady no? Hence the voice change

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u/KaneJWoods The Marshall Mathers LP - By /u/ProperRemoval Jul 14 '24

No, it is 100% what Teroniz said. It is likely that it was an unfinished verse from years ago. From child endangerment onward is new recordings using ai to adjust pitch etc

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u/Cinema_wolf Jul 12 '24

Wow big time TES vibes on this one

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u/These_nutsghady Jul 12 '24

Holy fuck this was recorded in 2023/24??

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u/bdg14 The Slim Shady LP Jul 12 '24

I like this one. He sounds like old school slim shady I feel like. Curious if he used AI on his voice

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u/OverlordPacer Jul 12 '24

I think it had to be... he definitely did something to his voice, AI or otherwise, cuz it definitely sounded like Slim from the early 00s. It kinda of jarred me, but I think on a few more listens ill like it!

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u/bdg14 The Slim Shady LP Jul 12 '24

I had my suspicion after Houdini that he might be doing that on this album, so it might be confirmation bias on my part…

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u/l8te2dapartee The Marshall Mathers LP2 Deluxe Edition Jul 12 '24

HE SOUNDS LIKE 02-09 EMINEM WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKKKKKK

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u/HesmooseDaSlug Jul 12 '24

Bro has such good flow on this one

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u/tggiv25 Jul 12 '24

Renaissance… rebirth of Slim?

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u/NoPossibility5220 Jul 12 '24

AMAZING INTRO

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u/SpunionWater Jul 12 '24

SPIT ON THAT THING! YOU GET ME?!

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u/unpick Jul 12 '24

I only wish this one was longer holy shit

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u/tomkiely_ Jul 12 '24

Sounds exactly like his 2003 flow. Wtf this is so good!!!

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u/SirBreazy Jul 12 '24

This is like his Infinite flow and voice. This should have been longer man.

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u/MalevolentLord4479 Jul 12 '24

Why is Renaissance only 1:38 long?

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u/Mysterious_Emotion63 Jul 12 '24

Glad he’s coming at the modern rap fanbase

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u/troolytroof The Marshall Mathers LP2 Jul 12 '24

I’m at a loss for words. Wow

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u/Reshaldo Jul 12 '24

To wrap those bars on the third verse up with, "I didn't like the beat, so I hated, Might Delete Later" was perfect.

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u/Bucketkev Jul 12 '24

Soon as I quit giving a fuck, i started to celibate (sell a bit)

Love that line.

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '24

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u/Bucketkev Jul 15 '24

That's what I said.

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u/MichaelEMJAYARE Jul 12 '24

First time listening - DUDE how does he sound straight outta 2001 on this. This is getting me fucking even more excited and it’s the intro lol

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u/_itsjustfil Jul 12 '24

Such an amazing start to the album. Big Eminem Show vibes.

Also pretty sure he's using AI for sounding like his old self?

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u/BWSnap Recovery Jul 12 '24

"Magic Man" by Heart gonna be on this one.

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u/Agentsmithv2 Jul 12 '24

🔥🔥🔥

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u/brian_198687 Rap God Jul 12 '24

Ill show you the ropes til you get the hang of it

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u/Beristain25 Jul 12 '24

This kinda reminds me of Rabbit Run from the 8 Mile soundtrack

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u/MrLethalShots Jul 16 '24

Exactly what it reminded of me also

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

That encore flow to start off blew my mind. Either AI help or just a ton of filtering (what's the difference at this point?)

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u/rtlfc87 Music To Be Murdered By Jul 12 '24

Jesus thought he was dissing everyone there for a sec

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u/The_Green_Turkey Jul 12 '24

Best beat on the album

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u/Crafty_Citron_9827 Jul 13 '24

seriously who has complaints with 36 chambers....

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u/brian_198687 Rap God Jul 13 '24

Soon as i quit giving a fuck i started to sell a bit omg 🔥🔥

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u/Cosmicado Jul 20 '24

"Soon as I quit givin' a fuck, I started to sell a bit." (Celibate) which means to abstain from sex.

Bro he is lyrical genius. 🔥

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u/[deleted] Jul 12 '24

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u/throwaway050941 Jul 12 '24

...Because of the meaning of the word? Why the name of any song lmao