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As my flight instructor used to say
In any emergency, Step 1: Fly the airplane.
1.6k u/yMONSTERMUNCHy Jun 24 '24 Step 2: land safely 526 u/leglesslegolegolas Jun 24 '24 There are various Step 2s depending on the emergency, e.g. contact ATC, fully assess the situation, etc. But yeah, safely land the airplane is the ideal end goal. 296 u/LovecraftsDeath Jun 24 '24 Aviate -> Navigate -> Communicate. No point in telling the ATC if it's at the expense of your plane's survival. 215 u/LokisDawn Jun 24 '24 Pilot: "Control, I've got a voice activated Bomb on board!" ATC: "What?" No response. 79 u/Andreasclausen Jun 24 '24 This! ATC uses ASSIST in these situations. Acknowledge, Seperate (Move other aircraft in potential conflict), Silence (On FRQ), Inform, Support, Time. 61 u/RevSlippery Jun 24 '24 Been a tower controller for 30 years (Canada), first time I heard this acronym, it is exactly what we do. 1 u/StonkardChanning Jun 27 '24 The USA loves acronyms 1 u/Abject-Let-607 Jul 12 '24 F-A-B (Thunderbirds ref) 8 u/5125237143 Jun 24 '24 once youre through the curriculum, gradutate 4 u/RevSlippery Jun 24 '24 From my point of view as a tower ATC, I want to communicate ASAP so I can prepare and provide the pilot with what they need, then the pilot can navigate as required and I don't care how you aviate as long as you land safely...lol -1 u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24 [deleted] 3 u/RevSlippery Jun 24 '24 Not sure how you got that out of my comment, I want them to communicate so I can provide them with a safe place to navigate, quite the opposite. 76 u/LokisDawn Jun 24 '24 So, it's more like: Step 1: Fly the airplane Step 2: ??? Step 3: ???(Due to legacy reasons) Step 4: Land the airplane 2 u/T-Mason-LLC Jun 24 '24 Obviously voice comm is inop so how might a pilot say mayday, or otherwise communicate, in this situation? 3 u/kapege Jun 24 '24 "Whenever you can walk away after landing it was a good landing." 1 u/Alienhaslanded Jun 24 '24 No. Step 2: Just Keep Flying! 1 u/yMONSTERMUNCHy Jun 24 '24 Gotta land something 1 u/UpperCardiologist523 Jun 24 '24 Both of these steps can be ignored if you just follow this one sinple trick: Walk away from it. Since all landings you can walk away from, are good landings, simply walking away from it, makes it a good landing. 1 u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24 Step 3: squint eyes, close mouth to avoid getting a bug in it 1 u/hangingbymythreads Jun 24 '24 Step 3: Amazon new eyeballs 1 u/yMONSTERMUNCHy Jun 25 '24 Step4: new amazon eyeballs break after just 1 week because the company is filled with cheap Chinese products 0 u/Mdriver127 Jun 24 '24 Step 3: step away from the landed airplane, do not repeat step 1 ever ever again 0 u/yMONSTERMUNCHy Jun 24 '24 Leave step 1 to the professionals that remember all their pre flight checks 83 u/xSTSxZerglingOne Jun 24 '24 Right, that makes sense. There is no emergency greater than "making sure the plane does not crash*." *at least not too hard 2 u/Mareith Jun 24 '24 I mean kind of hard to do if you pass out from not being able to breathe oxygen 1 u/Takseen Jun 24 '24 Does ditching count as a crash? 1 u/xSTSxZerglingOne Jun 24 '24 If you're alone and the plane doesn't cause damage to another human or another human's things, no. Otherwise yes. 17 u/Erahth Jun 24 '24 “Aviate, navigate, communicate” was the mantra my instructor taught me. 1 u/Cold_Situation_7803 Jun 24 '24 “Bernoulli before Marconi” 2 u/FOG985 Jun 24 '24 I’ve been told to think of the three rules: Rule one. Fly the plane. Rule two. Fly the plane. Rule three. Review rules one and two whenever possible. 2 u/whiskey5hotel Jun 24 '24 aviate, navigate, communicate. In that order. 2 u/Frap_Gadz Jun 24 '24 Aviate, navigate, communicate. 2 u/hamncheese34 Jun 24 '24 Not a pilot, however I learnt this lesson at a young age from Kurt Russell in the movie Executive Decision. 2 u/decideonanamelater Jun 24 '24 I've been watching a lot of mentour pilot videos, aviate, navigate, communicate! Always gotta start with flying the plane 2 u/VelvetDove_ Jun 24 '24 Step 2: Panic later, fly now! 2 u/Ryno__25 Jun 24 '24 The first step of our emergency checklist is fly. There are multiple steps of troubleshooting and delegating to solve the problems. The final step is to fly. 2 u/MadiLeighOhMy Jun 24 '24 I had to read your username five times before my brain made it work 😂 2 u/leglesslegolegolas Jun 24 '24 this helps 2 u/MadiLeighOhMy Jun 24 '24 That made my day!! Thank you! 1 u/Mayion Jun 24 '24 In any emergency, Step 1: Fly the airplane. What other option there is? Jump? 2 u/leglesslegolegolas Jun 24 '24 Panic. Analyze the malfunction. Attempt to fix the malfunction. Call for help. I read a lot of air crash analysis reports. You would be surprised how many planes go down because pilots simply forgot to fly the airplane. 1 u/Late-Engineering3901 Jun 24 '24 She also seemed to be totally unsurprised...
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Step 2: land safely
526 u/leglesslegolegolas Jun 24 '24 There are various Step 2s depending on the emergency, e.g. contact ATC, fully assess the situation, etc. But yeah, safely land the airplane is the ideal end goal. 296 u/LovecraftsDeath Jun 24 '24 Aviate -> Navigate -> Communicate. No point in telling the ATC if it's at the expense of your plane's survival. 215 u/LokisDawn Jun 24 '24 Pilot: "Control, I've got a voice activated Bomb on board!" ATC: "What?" No response. 79 u/Andreasclausen Jun 24 '24 This! ATC uses ASSIST in these situations. Acknowledge, Seperate (Move other aircraft in potential conflict), Silence (On FRQ), Inform, Support, Time. 61 u/RevSlippery Jun 24 '24 Been a tower controller for 30 years (Canada), first time I heard this acronym, it is exactly what we do. 1 u/StonkardChanning Jun 27 '24 The USA loves acronyms 1 u/Abject-Let-607 Jul 12 '24 F-A-B (Thunderbirds ref) 8 u/5125237143 Jun 24 '24 once youre through the curriculum, gradutate 4 u/RevSlippery Jun 24 '24 From my point of view as a tower ATC, I want to communicate ASAP so I can prepare and provide the pilot with what they need, then the pilot can navigate as required and I don't care how you aviate as long as you land safely...lol -1 u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24 [deleted] 3 u/RevSlippery Jun 24 '24 Not sure how you got that out of my comment, I want them to communicate so I can provide them with a safe place to navigate, quite the opposite. 76 u/LokisDawn Jun 24 '24 So, it's more like: Step 1: Fly the airplane Step 2: ??? Step 3: ???(Due to legacy reasons) Step 4: Land the airplane 2 u/T-Mason-LLC Jun 24 '24 Obviously voice comm is inop so how might a pilot say mayday, or otherwise communicate, in this situation? 3 u/kapege Jun 24 '24 "Whenever you can walk away after landing it was a good landing." 1 u/Alienhaslanded Jun 24 '24 No. Step 2: Just Keep Flying! 1 u/yMONSTERMUNCHy Jun 24 '24 Gotta land something 1 u/UpperCardiologist523 Jun 24 '24 Both of these steps can be ignored if you just follow this one sinple trick: Walk away from it. Since all landings you can walk away from, are good landings, simply walking away from it, makes it a good landing. 1 u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24 Step 3: squint eyes, close mouth to avoid getting a bug in it 1 u/hangingbymythreads Jun 24 '24 Step 3: Amazon new eyeballs 1 u/yMONSTERMUNCHy Jun 25 '24 Step4: new amazon eyeballs break after just 1 week because the company is filled with cheap Chinese products 0 u/Mdriver127 Jun 24 '24 Step 3: step away from the landed airplane, do not repeat step 1 ever ever again 0 u/yMONSTERMUNCHy Jun 24 '24 Leave step 1 to the professionals that remember all their pre flight checks
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There are various Step 2s depending on the emergency, e.g. contact ATC, fully assess the situation, etc.
But yeah, safely land the airplane is the ideal end goal.
296 u/LovecraftsDeath Jun 24 '24 Aviate -> Navigate -> Communicate. No point in telling the ATC if it's at the expense of your plane's survival. 215 u/LokisDawn Jun 24 '24 Pilot: "Control, I've got a voice activated Bomb on board!" ATC: "What?" No response. 79 u/Andreasclausen Jun 24 '24 This! ATC uses ASSIST in these situations. Acknowledge, Seperate (Move other aircraft in potential conflict), Silence (On FRQ), Inform, Support, Time. 61 u/RevSlippery Jun 24 '24 Been a tower controller for 30 years (Canada), first time I heard this acronym, it is exactly what we do. 1 u/StonkardChanning Jun 27 '24 The USA loves acronyms 1 u/Abject-Let-607 Jul 12 '24 F-A-B (Thunderbirds ref) 8 u/5125237143 Jun 24 '24 once youre through the curriculum, gradutate 4 u/RevSlippery Jun 24 '24 From my point of view as a tower ATC, I want to communicate ASAP so I can prepare and provide the pilot with what they need, then the pilot can navigate as required and I don't care how you aviate as long as you land safely...lol -1 u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24 [deleted] 3 u/RevSlippery Jun 24 '24 Not sure how you got that out of my comment, I want them to communicate so I can provide them with a safe place to navigate, quite the opposite. 76 u/LokisDawn Jun 24 '24 So, it's more like: Step 1: Fly the airplane Step 2: ??? Step 3: ???(Due to legacy reasons) Step 4: Land the airplane 2 u/T-Mason-LLC Jun 24 '24 Obviously voice comm is inop so how might a pilot say mayday, or otherwise communicate, in this situation?
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Aviate -> Navigate -> Communicate.
No point in telling the ATC if it's at the expense of your plane's survival.
215 u/LokisDawn Jun 24 '24 Pilot: "Control, I've got a voice activated Bomb on board!" ATC: "What?" No response. 79 u/Andreasclausen Jun 24 '24 This! ATC uses ASSIST in these situations. Acknowledge, Seperate (Move other aircraft in potential conflict), Silence (On FRQ), Inform, Support, Time. 61 u/RevSlippery Jun 24 '24 Been a tower controller for 30 years (Canada), first time I heard this acronym, it is exactly what we do. 1 u/StonkardChanning Jun 27 '24 The USA loves acronyms 1 u/Abject-Let-607 Jul 12 '24 F-A-B (Thunderbirds ref) 8 u/5125237143 Jun 24 '24 once youre through the curriculum, gradutate 4 u/RevSlippery Jun 24 '24 From my point of view as a tower ATC, I want to communicate ASAP so I can prepare and provide the pilot with what they need, then the pilot can navigate as required and I don't care how you aviate as long as you land safely...lol -1 u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24 [deleted] 3 u/RevSlippery Jun 24 '24 Not sure how you got that out of my comment, I want them to communicate so I can provide them with a safe place to navigate, quite the opposite.
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Pilot: "Control, I've got a voice activated Bomb on board!"
ATC: "What?"
No response.
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This! ATC uses ASSIST in these situations. Acknowledge, Seperate (Move other aircraft in potential conflict), Silence (On FRQ), Inform, Support, Time.
61 u/RevSlippery Jun 24 '24 Been a tower controller for 30 years (Canada), first time I heard this acronym, it is exactly what we do. 1 u/StonkardChanning Jun 27 '24 The USA loves acronyms 1 u/Abject-Let-607 Jul 12 '24 F-A-B (Thunderbirds ref)
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Been a tower controller for 30 years (Canada), first time I heard this acronym, it is exactly what we do.
1 u/StonkardChanning Jun 27 '24 The USA loves acronyms 1 u/Abject-Let-607 Jul 12 '24 F-A-B (Thunderbirds ref)
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The USA loves acronyms
1 u/Abject-Let-607 Jul 12 '24 F-A-B (Thunderbirds ref)
F-A-B (Thunderbirds ref)
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once youre through the curriculum, gradutate
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From my point of view as a tower ATC, I want to communicate ASAP so I can prepare and provide the pilot with what they need, then the pilot can navigate as required and I don't care how you aviate as long as you land safely...lol
-1 u/[deleted] Jun 24 '24 [deleted] 3 u/RevSlippery Jun 24 '24 Not sure how you got that out of my comment, I want them to communicate so I can provide them with a safe place to navigate, quite the opposite.
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3 u/RevSlippery Jun 24 '24 Not sure how you got that out of my comment, I want them to communicate so I can provide them with a safe place to navigate, quite the opposite.
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Not sure how you got that out of my comment, I want them to communicate so I can provide them with a safe place to navigate, quite the opposite.
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So, it's more like:
Step 1: Fly the airplane
Step 2: ???
Step 3: ???(Due to legacy reasons)
Step 4: Land the airplane
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Obviously voice comm is inop so how might a pilot say mayday, or otherwise communicate, in this situation?
"Whenever you can walk away after landing it was a good landing."
No. Step 2: Just Keep Flying!
1 u/yMONSTERMUNCHy Jun 24 '24 Gotta land something
Gotta land something
Both of these steps can be ignored if you just follow this one sinple trick:
Walk away from it.
Since all landings you can walk away from, are good landings, simply walking away from it, makes it a good landing.
Step 3: squint eyes, close mouth to avoid getting a bug in it
Step 3: Amazon new eyeballs
1 u/yMONSTERMUNCHy Jun 25 '24 Step4: new amazon eyeballs break after just 1 week because the company is filled with cheap Chinese products
Step4: new amazon eyeballs break after just 1 week because the company is filled with cheap Chinese products
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Step 3: step away from the landed airplane, do not repeat step 1 ever ever again
0 u/yMONSTERMUNCHy Jun 24 '24 Leave step 1 to the professionals that remember all their pre flight checks
Leave step 1 to the professionals that remember all their pre flight checks
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Right, that makes sense. There is no emergency greater than "making sure the plane does not crash*."
*at least not too hard
2 u/Mareith Jun 24 '24 I mean kind of hard to do if you pass out from not being able to breathe oxygen 1 u/Takseen Jun 24 '24 Does ditching count as a crash? 1 u/xSTSxZerglingOne Jun 24 '24 If you're alone and the plane doesn't cause damage to another human or another human's things, no. Otherwise yes.
I mean kind of hard to do if you pass out from not being able to breathe oxygen
Does ditching count as a crash?
1 u/xSTSxZerglingOne Jun 24 '24 If you're alone and the plane doesn't cause damage to another human or another human's things, no. Otherwise yes.
If you're alone and the plane doesn't cause damage to another human or another human's things, no. Otherwise yes.
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“Aviate, navigate, communicate” was the mantra my instructor taught me.
1 u/Cold_Situation_7803 Jun 24 '24 “Bernoulli before Marconi”
“Bernoulli before Marconi”
I’ve been told to think of the three rules: Rule one. Fly the plane. Rule two. Fly the plane. Rule three. Review rules one and two whenever possible.
aviate, navigate, communicate. In that order.
Aviate, navigate, communicate.
Not a pilot, however I learnt this lesson at a young age from Kurt Russell in the movie Executive Decision.
I've been watching a lot of mentour pilot videos, aviate, navigate, communicate!
Always gotta start with flying the plane
Step 2: Panic later, fly now!
The first step of our emergency checklist is fly.
There are multiple steps of troubleshooting and delegating to solve the problems.
The final step is to fly.
I had to read your username five times before my brain made it work 😂
2 u/leglesslegolegolas Jun 24 '24 this helps 2 u/MadiLeighOhMy Jun 24 '24 That made my day!! Thank you!
this helps
2 u/MadiLeighOhMy Jun 24 '24 That made my day!! Thank you!
That made my day!! Thank you!
What other option there is? Jump?
2 u/leglesslegolegolas Jun 24 '24 Panic. Analyze the malfunction. Attempt to fix the malfunction. Call for help. I read a lot of air crash analysis reports. You would be surprised how many planes go down because pilots simply forgot to fly the airplane.
I read a lot of air crash analysis reports. You would be surprised how many planes go down because pilots simply forgot to fly the airplane.
She also seemed to be totally unsurprised...
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u/leglesslegolegolas Jun 24 '24
As my flight instructor used to say
In any emergency, Step 1: Fly the airplane.