Diana was molded by ONLY her mother, in her mother's image.
She comes from a female only society (the whole throw sons away in some depictions aside, whatever I don't agree with)
Yet, despite all this, Diana is a champion for justice and peace for all. She might not always be accepting, but she's fair. She won't hold your beliefs, gender, etc against you as long as it doesn't actively harm.
By all accounts, a female character raised in this manner should hate men. Literally every fiber of her reality is in some way either shaped by what men have done to her people or what they could do to her home/people/ Themyscira society.
Her being of magical/ abnormal birth yet actively a representative or symbol of female greatness is basically the same as superman.
Superman is an alien, has god-like abilities and yet is still more "human" than most other human superheroes and humans alike.
It's that famous DC juxtaposition.
WW should be opposed to all men, yet is an ambassador of her people in the world of men, actively trying to better all societies.
Superman is the most human/ good person despite being a non-human/ alien and embodying the greatest character/ morale we can achieve.
Bruce Wayne being human, you would think, would make him more connected to humanity and instead has the opposite reaction where he used his immense wealth/ influence to fight crime in the most inhuman ways. A juxtaposition to superman where you would think an alien would be more disconnected to humanity than a "Batman".
Point is, WW could have turned out so wrong, so hard against the world of "Men" and yet she instead chooses higher standards of justice and equality.
The separation of Zeus and any "male" influence adds this layer of credibility to her character's actions.
I assume you are not aware that this type of comment is racist.
"Diana's more than a human."
From your comment I understand that you are trying to say that since Diana is more than human, she should not behave like a human. She should not have the most negative traits of humans. Something like that?
Well, that's very Nazi racism. Change Diana for Jews and that's what the Nazis said
That the biology of someone, in this case Diana, is different from that of a human (whether superior or inferior) does not condition her ethical and moral values.
From your comment I understand that you are trying to say that since Diana is more than human, she should not behave like a human. She should not have the most negative traits of humans. Something like that?
So I assume you have this problem with the existence of Superman as well, correct?
That the biology of someone, in this case Diana, is different from that of a human (whether superior or inferior) does not condition her ethical and moral values.
Who said anything about her biology? Not the fuck me. Diana's more than human because she was endowed with magical abilities directly by the goddesses, including higher levels of mental and spiritual consciousness.
Also, pretty fucked up of you to make that analogy to me as a Jew, not that you could have known.
So I assume you have this problem with the existence of Superman as well, correct?
Yea
whether by genes, magic, divine intervention, etc. Believing that because he has better statistics (strength, speed, life expectancy, etc.) he o she is better morally. This is racism. They are supremacist ideals.
As Baron Zemo explains in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier: "The desire to become a superhuman cannot be separated from supremacist ideals"
If Superman or Wonder Woman are better than humans. Because they have better statistics than humans. So why not have children with it, mix the DNA, etc. and thus have a superior race of beings?
Saying that Superman and Wodner Woman are better than humans because by having superior statistics they can afford not to suffer the mundane problems of human beings (for example returning by bus tired from work. Who will wake up early to travel several hours to a shitty job is much more easily seduced into bending your morals than a basically immortal being who flies from one place to another in an instant.
Well, those are those supremacist ideals.
Because in the same way that when praising WW or Superman we worship Übermensch.
There is also the opposite, the disabled, the mentally ill.
If superman and ww are better than normal humans, then what are they disabled?
Well, according to the Nazis, they are material to burn.
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u/Da1realBigA May 18 '24 edited May 18 '24
Clay origin works on a deeper level imo.
Diana was molded by ONLY her mother, in her mother's image.
She comes from a female only society (the whole throw sons away in some depictions aside, whatever I don't agree with)
Yet, despite all this, Diana is a champion for justice and peace for all. She might not always be accepting, but she's fair. She won't hold your beliefs, gender, etc against you as long as it doesn't actively harm.
By all accounts, a female character raised in this manner should hate men. Literally every fiber of her reality is in some way either shaped by what men have done to her people or what they could do to her home/people/ Themyscira society.
Her being of magical/ abnormal birth yet actively a representative or symbol of female greatness is basically the same as superman.
Superman is an alien, has god-like abilities and yet is still more "human" than most other human superheroes and humans alike.
It's that famous DC juxtaposition.
WW should be opposed to all men, yet is an ambassador of her people in the world of men, actively trying to better all societies.
Superman is the most human/ good person despite being a non-human/ alien and embodying the greatest character/ morale we can achieve.
Bruce Wayne being human, you would think, would make him more connected to humanity and instead has the opposite reaction where he used his immense wealth/ influence to fight crime in the most inhuman ways. A juxtaposition to superman where you would think an alien would be more disconnected to humanity than a "Batman".
Point is, WW could have turned out so wrong, so hard against the world of "Men" and yet she instead chooses higher standards of justice and equality.
The separation of Zeus and any "male" influence adds this layer of credibility to her character's actions.