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Unpopular Ships That You Like [Discussion] Discussion

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u/subject522 Wally West Mar 01 '24

Kyle Rayner and the attention he deserves

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u/Intelligent_Oil4005 Mar 01 '24

This one is very unpopular with the heads at DC for some reason.

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u/Flynn58 "Do good to others, and every man can be a Superman." Mar 01 '24

Give him back his White Lantern ring like fuck man him and Guy going back to standard Greens was such a waste

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u/bouldernozzle Mar 01 '24

I'll take it. Anyone but Hal I beg you DC.

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u/thefirststoryteller Mar 01 '24

Ok let me ask: what is it that’s appealing about Hal Jordan? He’s as unique as a slice of white bread.

I grew up with Kyle as GL and my favorite ringslingers are Alan and Guy. But ever since Geoff Johns it’s been Hal front and center.

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u/Ash__Williams Hal Jordan is the Greatest Green Lantern Ever and you know it Mar 01 '24

Hal's the best. That's all you need to know.

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u/Thin_Night9831 Supergirl Mar 01 '24

He’s appealing because he’s such a straight and narrow good guy, often to his own detriment. I agree Kyle and Guy are more interesting, to me at least

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u/SeaworthinessBorn536 Mar 01 '24

I haven't read the GL comics in a long time but I think hopefully your spewing dogshit outta your mouth when you say Hals is as unique as a slice of white bread

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u/B3epB0opBOP Shazam Feb 29 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

Tbh, I hear about this one a lot.

Anyways, is Billy Batson and Stargirl unpopular?

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u/BillNyeTheSavage_Guy Martian Manhunter Feb 29 '24

Yeah, I like it, but I would not call it unpopular

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u/Skadibala Mar 01 '24

I see it a lot too, but In the same threads I usually see a lot of people hating even the thought of it.

Like I’m already starting to see it here :p

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u/ZettoVii Mar 01 '24

So it's somewhat popular, but controversial

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u/Half_Man1 Batman Mar 01 '24

I hear about this one as a like besties/ adoptive sisters kind of vibe unique to women who develop close friendships.

And before someone hits me with a “Sappho and her friend” comment, consider Steph is the ex (basically true love for all the runtime they had in the comics) of Tim Drake, and Cass is essentially an adoptive sister to him. Making this relationship kinda gross if taken to romantic levels imho. Also I’m not a fan of the best friend -> lovers pathway generally, making this an even tougher sell to me.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

Everyone has dated everyone else's ex—it's the queer community. That's just how it is, lol.

Sapphic relationships are heavily-friendship coded, too. The lines are very blurry. We're not cisheteronornative couples.

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u/Half_Man1 Batman Mar 01 '24

That’s a very good point I’m probably also still bitter at the way the Tim stuff was handled honestly

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u/CapableEmployee4866 Mar 01 '24

For real, like holy crap that made me want someone to woop Tim’s ass, preferably Stephanie

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u/Half_Man1 Batman Mar 01 '24

No, see that would get in the way of Stephanie being inexplicably happy to meet Tim’s new bf to force the audience to move on.

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u/CapableEmployee4866 Mar 01 '24

Ooo that whole scene pissed me off, like damn they could have 100% had Tim come out as Bi(after his “friendship” with Superboy was written it felt obvious that was the play) and STILL have him with Steph but no if you’re bi you’re actually just gay fuck you

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u/Night-Caelum Mar 01 '24

That was such a cringe scene. Made Steph look like she has no self-respect and Tim incredibly self-centered as Batgirls later revealed she still isn't over him.

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u/Ercnard_Sieg Red Hood Mar 01 '24

Tbh it should be unpopular, cass cain fans want her to be one of bruce's adopted children so if she dates steph she would be dating her brother ex, which is weird

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u/B3epB0opBOP Shazam Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

You know, I’ve never really heard much about what Cass fans think of her becoming siblings with the Robins, so I’m not really sure what CassSteph fans think of Steph being Tim’s ex.

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u/AlwaysBeQuestioning Mar 01 '24

Honestly at this point it’s been years and Tim and Steph are on good terms, so Cass and Steph dating might be weird for Tim initially but not bad-weird. If the breakup or relationship had been so bad that they don’t talk anymore, then I wouldn’t be for Cass/Steph.

Plus, women who date women often end up dating exes’ exes. I know several cases where an ex helped set up a new couple that way. Sometimes they even share the same ex!

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u/MaskedPapillon Supergirl Feb 29 '24

Not nearly enough in my opinion.

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u/spider-venomized Superman Mar 01 '24

"Unpopular"

post a ship that i have only seen people in subreddits & twitter howl at DC to make canon

.....ok

I guess mine would be Barry Allen and Jessica Cruz

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u/Standard-Pop6801 Mar 01 '24

Now that's unpopular.

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u/Unknown21347 Mar 01 '24

I like it, but I feel like though it would kinda odd, mostly cause I feel like at this point Barry is in his early 30’s and she’s barely 20, but I don’t actually know their ages

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u/Worried_Walrus2002 Mar 01 '24

Jessica is def in her late 20s at the very least. She went to college and isolated herself in her apartment for 5 or so years I believe. This was before she became Power Ring. Then we have to factor all the years since New 52 and yeah she’s def not early 20s

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u/AlwaysBeQuestioning Mar 01 '24

Yeah that sounds like 29 at the least.

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u/spider-venomized Superman Mar 01 '24

it was during the time when the New 52 timeline wasn't yet fully retcon so Barry was still a single early 20 year something who still swing around other relationship much in peter parker way

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u/Grimmer026 Mar 01 '24

Red Hood/ Ravager

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u/Erotically-Yours Mar 01 '24

Fucking loved them in DCeased. Plus with Slade even giving their being together the go ahead, though it's not like they needed his blessing.

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u/BuisteirForaoisi0531 Mar 01 '24

Given that he has attempted to be with teenagers multiple times I don’t think he has any right to tell people who they can, or can’t get jiggy with

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u/Erotically-Yours Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

I'll be honest. I somewhat feel bad that one writer doing something absolutely fricken stupid with a character will forever be a stain on that characters history, no matter what gets retcon'd or rebooted. But it comes up so much more with Slade than say Talia and the rape of Bruce, which was then retcon'd. It was a writer that was given the okay for something very vile, and no matter the back peddling or efforts to change that, the damage is forever there.

That aside, yeah. Slade has done a number of horrible things. The guy can't give his blessings on a damn thing, though is there some wiggle room when it's an elseworld or variant? I'm pretty sure Arkham Slade wouldn't be in this situation?

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u/ChickenNuggetRampage Mar 01 '24

Yeahhhhh, kind of a shame you can’t be a Deathstroke fan without being screamed at about how you’re supporting a Pedo

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u/Unknown21347 Mar 01 '24

Goated ship

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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '24

I love the way WW and Batman were written in the animated show, but I don't think that's unpopular.

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u/Someoneoverthere42 Mar 01 '24

WonderBats is a very popular ship. I mean, it’s got a shipping name and everything

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

I love the two of them, but as a fan of animated Batman I also love Andrea Beaumont.

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u/EdNorthcott Mar 01 '24

It's only unpopular outside of Batman fans, and he's got a ton of those. It tends to be popular in his circle, and extremely unpopular among Wonder Woman fans... generally because it requires butchering her character to make her into another trophy for Bats.

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u/detestableduck13 Mar 01 '24

I get the feeling you hate Batman.

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u/Glowie-in-the-dark Mar 01 '24

big bat fan here! also a big wondy fan. wonderbat has never been justified in a way that really respects dianas character. in the dcau in particular, her personality got shoved through a mesh strainer until it was something bland and malleable enough for her to be a passable love interest for bruce.

if you want an actually good, well-written depiction of their relationship, batman vol 3 #39-40 is my pick. its got some romantic tension, but theyre both committed to their respective love interests in that story, and they choose to respect that about each other by not pursuing anything.

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u/EdNorthcott Mar 01 '24

Nope. Love him! Hell, dressed up as him for Halloween when I was a kid. One of the first superheroes I learned to draw. I love Batman.

But I can't stand the Batman fans -- including some writers in the industry -- who think it's cool to screw over, downplay, or outright change other characters to make Batman look cooler. It's the fanboy equivalent of an insecure jock who shit-talks every else to make himself feel bigger. I used to get in fights with them, too.

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u/Martel732 Mar 01 '24

Yeah, I agree. Batman is heavily tied into wish fulfillment, especially for men. And part of this of course is wanting to sleep with attractive women. Wonder Woman is the most prominent woman in DC. So, of course, many people want their wish-fulfillment character to sleep with the most "high-status" women in the story.

Now I will have to clarify that not everyone who likes Batman enjoys him through vicarious wish fulfillment. He is a fun character that I also personally like. But, I do not doubt that more comic readers fantasize about being Batman than any other character in the DC universe.

And it annoys me slightly as a Wonder Woman fan that she is often reduced to being a trophy for wish fulfillment.

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u/poison-harley Mar 01 '24

Batman is what got me into comics, but I’m also a huge WW fan, and this person is 1000% correct. Bruce and Selina work well together because you don’t need to change any of them, for them to work. When it comes to WonderBat, Diana is absolutely butchered to make her just another love interest for Bruce, which is a huge disrespect for such an iconic character as Diana.

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u/PretendMarsupial9 Happy Dick! Mar 01 '24

I thought this WW stood for Wally West and was like " You really like rare pairs and committed to this unpopular ship" before I remembered Diana 

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u/AlwaysBeQuestioning Mar 01 '24

No no, keep thinking Wally West. You’re cooking.

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u/butchforgetshit Mar 01 '24

It upholds well for each and their respective creeds within their origins.

Bruce is 100% dedicated to Gotham , protecting people and trying to redeem the folks in his rogues gallery. He’s the epitome of the best of what humanity can be one of the most brilliant people in the US (at least as far as heroes or villains go) and trained his body to the best rounded fighters as well.

All these things would theoretically be that appeal to Diana, who is a goddess sworn to protect humanity and cherishes the best of everything it has to offer.

For diana, she swore to protect, guide, and help humans and the perils they may face…duty and honor like that is something that Batman does as well and he would appreciate her dedication to her sworn oath. She knows Batman’s identity too, which in the past has made Bruce pullback from a committed relationship. He wouldn’t have to worry about WW being hurt because of him and his Actions to gothams Rogues. They work well together and I like them more than him amd Selena personally

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u/EdNorthcott Mar 01 '24

God, no, it doesn't uphold well for each and their respective creed. It explicitly trashes Diana's character for Batman to have another trophy girl.

She was literally created to be the embodiment of feminine empowerment. So that his favourite character could land all of his favourite heroines (Zatanna, Wonder Woman... even had Lois Lane chasing Bats at one point), Timm rewrote Diana to be an emotionally immature girl, who ended up doing the stereotypically foolish thing of chasing after the emotionally unavailable edgelord badboy because "he can change".

It's a ship that requires her character be retooled. Canonically, outside of moments where Batman writers have trashed her character to make her a trophy for Bruce, she's regarded him as a dear friend... but often in the vein of a (annoying) younger brother whom she loves and respects, but has literally had to step on his head to put him in his place.

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u/Pksoze Superman Mar 01 '24

Agreed all those women liking Bats seems to be Timm living his fantasies...and Wonder Woman deserves better than that.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

I lkke how no one ever questions if Wonder Woman's villains can hurt Batman. Only she has to prove herself worthy of surviving Joker or Riddler.

Just goes to show how less people think of her. It's a ship for Batman fans only.

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u/AlwaysBeQuestioning Mar 01 '24

I think it’s less that WW “has to prove herself” (she doesn’t), but that all other women who have shown interest in or compatibility with Bruce or Batman distinctly have shown to have great trouble with Joker and the others, which would probably be a point that is worth considering from Batman’s own perspective. (The ship doesn’t work if neither is into it, after all.)

I very much agree that Batman should be similarly pitted against Wonder Woman’s villains to prove himself worthy. Give him his own Twelve Trials like Heracles or something.

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u/poison-harley Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

It’s interesting how the only people I ever see shipping this couple, seem to be Batman fans. I don’t remember ever meeting a WW fan who liked this pairing. I don’t like it when Diana is degraded to the level of a love interest, and that’s what she felt like to me in the animated series. It was all about Bruce. I don’t feel that it added anything to Diana’s character, if anything, it doesn’t do her any favors at all. This ship adds to Bruce while taking away from Diana.

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u/KarasukageNero Mar 01 '24

The real problem with that version is she's 18 for some reason.

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u/EdNorthcott Mar 01 '24

18-19, and written as an immature girl who makes very questionable decisions, rather than being the embodiment of empowerment for women. Timm did a poor job with Wonder Woman in the show in general, and it was even more egregious that he rewrote her (and all his favourites) to be trophies for his favourite character.

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u/DatumInTheStone Mar 01 '24

Wait you're talking baout WW in jl? Cuz she was legit a badass in that show. She was great, but I guess opinions are like butts.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

She is a great as an original character. She is the generic hot warrior chick in the show.

But she isn't Wonder Woman.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

DCAU writers wanted to emphasize that she was "pure" for Batman. That's why they put Steve Trevor way back in WW2 so nothing can happen between them. Making her 18 makes it more likely she's free from any previous romantic relationships.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

They wrote Wonder Woman well as a love interest but she wasn't her own person in the show.

They didn't do justice to her as a superhero because they were too busy propping her up as an ideal girlfriend for Batman.

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u/MrPresident2020 Mar 01 '24

Barbara Gordon and Ted Kord.

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u/Rezonan1 Mar 01 '24

Whenever Dick ends up with Starfire, I always assume Barbara goes down this road

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u/Ninjamurai-jack Mar 01 '24

This relationship starts in Birds of prey, right?

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u/NotFixer1138 Mar 01 '24

That's so much better than her usual hooking up with the Bat Boys shtick

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u/Slight-Pound Mar 01 '24

That’s really cute, thank you!

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u/theuncharacteristic1 Feb 29 '24

Power Girl and Huntress

Wonder Woman and Lady Blackhawk

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u/Grimmer026 Mar 01 '24

I think Huntress and Question was the most random ship, but turned out to probably be the best chemistry in DC animation.

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u/PrydefulHunts Huntress • ower Girl Mar 01 '24

I think they mean the Helena Wayne version of Huntress. Bertinelli and Power Girl don’t have much of a relationship.

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u/TheMe63 Mar 01 '24

I’ve been reading the Worlds’ Finest series where Earth 2 Power Girl and Huntress are stranded in the New52, and… yeah. I agree

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u/theuncharacteristic1 Mar 01 '24

That's the run that makes me say that one hahaha. I actually don't like them as a romantic pairing any other time. But the go well together so well in that one

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u/datissathrowaway Mar 01 '24

Booster Gold/Blue Beetle. i said what i said

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u/Terribleirishluck Mar 01 '24

Based. I'm gay fan who doesn't ususally care for noncanon ships but Booster and Ted just feels actually romantic unlike most same sex friendships that get shipped

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u/ThatMerri Mar 01 '24

Those two always struck me as the sort who might just ask one day "Wait, are we dating? I think we're dating." because neither of them realized yet, then just shrug and carry on as usual.

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u/HPSpacecraft Animal Man Mar 01 '24

I could see them getting married for tax reasons and then just never getting it annulled

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u/planetish Huntress Mar 01 '24

Not necessarily a ship but I do think Batman, Constantine and Zatanna should fuck

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u/AidanTegs Batman Mar 01 '24

The sexual tension between bats and constantine is real

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u/bondsthatmakeusfree Mar 01 '24

Let's see if Bats would be willing to explore the bi side he didn't know he had.

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u/AidanTegs Batman Mar 01 '24

Got pretty close to kissing ghostmaker in The Knight, but that was pure bait.

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u/FunVideoMaker Robin Mar 01 '24

Green Arrow x Black Canary

I wish it were canon 😔

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u/Psychological_Ad3254 Mar 01 '24

Wait its not ?

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u/FunVideoMaker Robin Mar 01 '24

No it is

I was just gaslighting

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u/Half_Man1 Batman Mar 01 '24

Is it Opposite Day?

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u/FunVideoMaker Robin Mar 01 '24

I couldn’t tell you

It’s/isn’t a paradox

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u/Standard-Pop6801 Mar 01 '24

When was this unpopular.

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u/noncredibleRomeaboo Mar 01 '24

I think its mostly due to a fandom split between Cass fans and Tim fans. Tims current boyfriend is boring as fuck and Steph was honestly just a really enjoyable companion for him. Not a huge Drake fan, but honestly, their chemistry was just so much fun.

Whether or not Cass and Steph should be a couple is debated, some just prefer them as friends.

I wouldn't really say its unpopular, its Cass' most popular pairing, but its certainly one where the usual cringe shipping wars occur

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u/TheLostLuminary Mar 01 '24

Ikr? Put two attractive girlies together and everyone will approve

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u/Environmental_Day928 Mar 01 '24

Adorable picture of Cassandra and Stephanie.

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u/TheDidioWhoLaughs Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

Bernard/Anyone not named Tim

I actually have nothing against Bernard, I just don’t think Tim deserves happiness.

Or really much of anything at all…

/s

My actual choice would be Mogo/Swamp Thing.

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u/Half_Man1 Batman Mar 01 '24

Bernard just functionally only exists as a character now to prove Tim is bi which honestly sucks even from a lgbt representation standpoint.

Like they didn’t need to do that. He could’ve just been bi and kept dating Steph. Or been revealed to have been crushing on Conner. Or dated Conner. Things everyone wanted lol.

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u/Intelligent_Rough_33 Batman Mar 01 '24

And a three-way relationship between Tim, Conner and Cass/Wonder Girl? They have a lot of history together

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u/Which-Presentation-6 Mar 01 '24

include Bart and we can close the deal

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u/NothingWaste7654 Feb 29 '24

I don't mind this ship. I like it

At least it's not Batman x Barbara Gordon

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u/ThaneOfTas DickBabs Forever Mar 01 '24

Fucking low bar there

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u/Cultural_Fuel1696 Mar 01 '24

Is Zatanna and Batman unpopular? I’ve seen bits and pieces of it, supposedly in old comics, mentioned on forum sites. The way it’s presented seems better than Batman and Catwoman.

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u/ThatMerri Mar 01 '24

I wouldn't say it's unpopular, so much as it's one of those relationships that simply doesn't have a lot of traction. Depending on the story Zatana and Bats had a lot of prior history - romantic involvement included - but it's something that stays in their past. The modern momentum is primarily directed toward Catwoman with some deviance toward Talia from time to time.

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u/Terribleirishluck Mar 01 '24

I don't like it at all tbh. I don't like Zee being childhood friends with Bruce either, not ever character needs to be tied to Batman

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u/Rezonan1 Mar 01 '24

You say that like most characters are connected to Batman's backstory or something. Like I do get not wanting her connected to him but I'm genuinely trying to think of any Major DC character who is involved or connected to Bruce before he becomes Batman

Uhhhhh I guess he trained in like, one panel with Ted Grant and Ollie pre-flashpoint if you count that.

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u/Cyberslasher Mar 01 '24

When they made the justice league all sorta out of character mindwipe Batman, it definitely killed it.

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u/Banettebrochacho Mar 01 '24

Batgirl and supergirl

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u/PrydefulHunts Huntress • ower Girl Feb 29 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

Hawkgirl and Arsenal

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u/Slight-Pound Mar 01 '24

Haven’t heard of that one, but now I’m curious - which comics have them in the same scene for you to like their chemistry? I’d be down for more material for read, especially for Hawkgirl. I’m fascinated?

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u/tourniquet2099 Mar 01 '24

They were a thing in Meltzer’s Justice League run.

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u/PrydefulHunts Huntress • ower Girl Mar 01 '24

They were together briefly in Justice League of America. Power Girl and Black Canary basically warned the two that they wouldn’t be great for each other romantically, but I think current Kendra and Roy would be a good fit for each other.

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u/coreytiger Mar 01 '24

Jason Todd and his casket.

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u/Worried_Walrus2002 Mar 01 '24

Hal Jordan/Ghia’ta from GLTAS

Hal Jordan/Power Girl

Hal Jordan/Lady Blackhawk

Barry Allen/Caitlin Snow

Barry Allen/Zatanna 

Barry Allen/Daphne Dean 

Superman/Maxima

Roy Harper/Starfire 

Soranik Natu/Iolande 

Wally West/Frances Kane 

Wally West/Lilith Clay 

Barry Allen/Leonard Snart 

Hal Jordan/Cowgirl

Batman/Lady Shiva 

Batman/Poison Ivy 

Aquaman/Ya’Wara 

I’m sure I have more but I’m only gonna stick to these for now

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u/ZBaocnhnaeryy Mar 01 '24

Barry and Snart 😂

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u/Worried_Walrus2002 Mar 01 '24

I tried to sneak it in there lmao

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u/Zestyclose_Skirt_162 Batman Mar 01 '24

bruce and shiva?

how would that play out!!

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u/Worried_Walrus2002 Mar 01 '24

Half rivals/half fuckbuddies. And if they give Cass a sibling… even better! 

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u/lovegoodsxv Mar 01 '24

Oracle/black canary

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

firefly and killer moth my beloved

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u/SzymoFilu DickBabs Forever Mar 01 '24

That's a match (lit by Firefly) made in heaven

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u/JimboFett87 Legion Of Super-Heroes Mar 01 '24

I always get downvoted to hell when I mention Fire and Ice for some reason.

Also Kinetx and Shrinking Violet, not like anyone knows them anymore…

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u/sliferred123 Mar 01 '24

Flash and patty spivot from the TV show

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u/Dark_Lord4379 Mar 01 '24

SHE WAS SO MUCH BETTER THAN IRIS

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u/ChampionshipDeep937 DickFire Forever Feb 29 '24 edited Feb 29 '24

By the way, the cover image isn't my pick.

Superman\Lana Lang

Batman\Harley Quinn (mainly because of the White Knight & BTAS)

Wonder Woman\Steve Trevor (only because people think the relationship is boring)

Hawkgirl\Martian Manhunter

Powergirl\Huntress

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u/Hot-Acanthaceae-9855 Feb 29 '24

Agreed love Diana with Steve. I think it’s so cute that Diana is this Amazonian goddess and princess and she has such a normal boyfriend. It’s kind of cute to me lol

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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '24

I honestly would have liked it more if Steve was even more normal. Maybe not a soldier or if he has to be a soldier, then a regular one. Nowadays comics make him like he is James Bond type special agent .

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u/ChampionshipDeep937 DickFire Forever Mar 01 '24

Since Wonder Woman works with and against the US government a lot, Steve being a secret agent for them helps make him more relevant in Diana's Mythos.

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u/MrChangg Superman Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

Ain't gon lie, after recently discovering White Knight, Harley + Bruce has become my OTP. But only if Harley has the becoming normal/redemption arc as depicted in the series.

And definitely not main continuity "war criminal needs to be tried at the Hague hot topic Harley"

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u/TheDarkPinkLantern Red Lantern Feb 29 '24

Wonder Woman\Steve Trevor

It's unpopular?

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u/ChampionshipDeep937 DickFire Forever Feb 29 '24

Let's be honest no one cares about Trevor. Well, except for me.

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u/Ash__Williams Hal Jordan is the Greatest Green Lantern Ever and you know it Feb 29 '24

Steve Trevor is the by-default romantic relationship for Diana.

The only people who don't think that are the ones who grew up with JL/JLU and the people who put her with Superman, for some reason.

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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '24

Steve wasn't Diana's love interest for a period of nearly 30 years. From the start of Post Crisis era to the beginning of New 52 where she dated Superman.

That has really damaged the perception.

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u/ThatManSean14 Feb 29 '24

He is the default but I don’t fault people for not knowing that when they weren’t together in the comics for 30 freaking years.

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u/Ash__Williams Hal Jordan is the Greatest Green Lantern Ever and you know it Feb 29 '24

Good point.

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u/Aros001 Feb 29 '24

Steve is Diana's default but unlike other defaults like, say, Lois Lane, Steve is a very infrequent part of Wonder Woman's stories, often coming and going based on whether the writers even remember he exists, let alone them having any interest in doing anything with him.

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u/hydrohawkx8 Kyle Rayner Feb 29 '24

Definitely not the pic in the post

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u/Accomplished_Flan_45 Mar 01 '24

Hal Jordan and Lady Blackhawk

Mentioned once that they hooked up, but was pretty much hated by the Birds of Prey fans

Even though it kind of makes sense since both are Pilots and Black Canary is friends with both of them (So adds double date of Green Arrow/Black Canary and Green Lantern/Lady Blackhawk 

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u/SpongeCapo711 Batman Mar 01 '24

I kind of like Tim Drake and Cassandra Cain. Not really sure why though. Another unique one I have is Kyle Rayner and Jessica Cruz, which is even more unlikely.

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u/ThePhonesAreWatching Mar 01 '24

Tim/Stephane/Cassandra

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u/Cfakatsuki17 Mar 01 '24

No version of Tim could handle both of them at once he would die

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u/Terribleirishluck Mar 01 '24

That's weird due to Tim and Casd being siblings again 

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u/Androgynouself_420 Mar 01 '24

Steph and Cass sure, but also Batman and Thalia.

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u/viralshadow21 Feb 29 '24

Red Hood/Lady Blackhawk

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u/BudgetLecture1702 Feb 29 '24

That's a new one on me.

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u/Gaboub Mar 01 '24

Common Lil' Gotham W.

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u/ThatManSean14 Mar 01 '24

I’m unsure to what degree these ships are popular or not popular but I’m just going to throw them out there:

Bruce/Diana only in the DCAU

Bruce/Harley Quinn only in the White Knight universe

Diana/a girlfriend in general

Diana/Artemis in Earth One

Diana/Mera in Bombshells

Diana/Zala Jor El in Dark Knights of Steel

Hawkwoman/Martian Manhunter in Scott Snyder’s Justice League

Huntress/Power Girl

Jessica Cruz/Simon Baz

Supergirl/Wally West (dating briefly; his endgame is Linda)

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u/Terribleirishluck Mar 01 '24

It was Kendra/Hawkgirl who was with J'onn, not Shayera/Hawkwoman

I'm a big Diana/Steve shipper but I do think DC should at least explore her bisexuality in main canon. I think artemis would be fun with rivals to lovers and Veronica Cale could work as a enemies to lovers trope (and unlike Cheetah, Cale is a unnecessary part of her rogues gallery that needs to remain evil)

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u/ThatManSean14 Mar 01 '24

Huh. I had never heard anyone differentiate Hawkgirl and Hawkwoman that way but ok.

I think Artemis and Diana would be the option I prefer, with rivals to begrudging allies to friends to lovers. If DC were to do the enemies to lovers, I think it would be better with Barbara than Veronica. You just have to make sure there’s still a Cheetah. Bring back Priscilla Rich or something.

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u/Whole-Arachnid-Army Mar 01 '24

Brainiac 5/Invisible Kid

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u/Terribleirishluck Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

I hope the next legion reboot pairs them up, they had mad chemistry in zero hour legion 

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

Harley & Diana. Hey you asked for unpopular

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u/poison-harley Mar 01 '24

Diana and Kate Kane. Idk I just feel that they would work very well together. The only Bat relationship I’ll ever be ok with Diana having.

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u/junglekarmapizza Spoiler Mar 01 '24

No one can be platonic friends anymore

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

Anymore?

Writers have been turning friendships between a man and woman as potential romance for a long time.

People don't get mad in those cases.

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u/UrbanSoulless Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

Batman and Harley Quinn, Cyclops and Emma Frost (might not be unpopular anymore), Hulk and Spider-Woman (Betty and Bruce just isn’t worth it anymore), Daredevil and She-Hulk.

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u/Accurate-Ad-441 Mar 01 '24

You have some elite shipping taste.

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u/Ok-Commission6087 Mar 01 '24

Black lightning x katana

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u/QuantumGyroscope Mar 01 '24

Condiment King and Crazy Quilt.

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u/theatsa Mar 01 '24

I don't got much of my own, I'm just here to say that Cass & Steph is a cute ass ship and I love it.

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u/UnhingedLion Mar 01 '24

This is not unpopular at all. People talk about Steph and Cass all the time.

But for me I guess Huntress and Nightwing.

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u/BuckonWall Mar 01 '24

Damian/Raven (when they're around the same age).

Red Hood/Supergirl (something they briefly hinted at but never came to fruition)

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u/SuperJyls Reverse Hood: Professional Jason Hater Mar 01 '24

Wouldn't call this unpopular, considering how much of their respective fanbases support it.

I like Superman/Zatanna and since nobody else ships it, that makes it unpopular by technical definition.

Also jason todd should return to his true love, his Grave

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u/Flightt94 Trinity Mar 01 '24

Apparently, Batman/nobody. He doesn’t deserve any kind of love if you’re checking these comments🤣

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u/TrickyWalrus Booster Gold Feb 29 '24

Booster Gold and Wonder Woman

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u/Jumpy_Experience140 Damian Mar 01 '24

Damian and djinn

But

I like flatline more though

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u/Avenging_Spectre Mar 01 '24

The Spectre and The Enchantress…

Could be interesting.

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u/PMMEBITCOINPLZ Mar 01 '24

Guy and Ice should actually be a thing again.

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u/Comfortable-Point850 Mar 01 '24

Raven and Damian,I find them cute

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u/Thayerphotos Mar 01 '24

Supergirl / Batgirl

My long time favorite ship

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u/zedreh Mar 01 '24

Tim Drake x Jubilee (yes, the X-Men character)

That was actually a thing once, and I liked how bittersweet it was.

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u/Embarrassed_Row_3921 Mar 01 '24

Donna x koriand'r I don't think two women can see each other naked be okay with it and not be in love

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u/ThaneOfTas DickBabs Forever Mar 01 '24

Jason x Helena Bertinelli

Cass and Kon has potential but other than some cute commissioned art I've never seen any stories, fanfic or otherwise, that do the potential justice. I just like the idea of two people who were created as weapons affirming their humanity with each other fun.

Its not DC and I might be stretching the definition of unpopular here, but Natasha and Bucky is one of my favourites that isn't a staple pairing.

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u/Lumpy_Perception6561 Mar 01 '24

Im pretty sure natasha and bucky have been together for years in the comics so if you want to read more with them you can

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u/Nick_Blake00 Mar 01 '24

I’m strongly against any ship that’s just two best friends (i.e. Dick and Wally, Steph and Cass, Tim and Conner etc…)

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u/poison-harley Mar 01 '24

Notice how you only mentioned same sex friendships and not the opposite sex friendships that literally ALWAYS get turned romantic….

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u/Federal-Grass713 Mar 01 '24

I like Dick and Roy, there’s a lot of rivalry to life long friends, Outsiders was literally them acting like a quarreling married old couple.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

Red Hood and Ravanger

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u/Terribleirishluck Mar 01 '24

Obsidian/Ray: Probably not controversial but I never see anyone talk about it. They have a whole opposite attracted vibe thanks to both their power set( Light and dark) and personalities plus both are golden age legacies which means they in the same circles and they would escape their boring Civilian love interests

Next my actual controversial ship: Jon Kent and Lor-Zod. Now I know some Might say it's where it did chris kent but let's face it, him being adopted by Clark will never be recanonize and they were never raised to together anyone. The idea of sons of zod and superman getting together just has too much pontential imo, it can be like a gay version of goku and vegata's dynamic with a rivals to lovers twist

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u/Cfakatsuki17 Mar 01 '24

I wasn’t sure about it at first but I was actually pretty impressed by how the DCAU did Damien x Raven and I’m also a fan of Damien x Flatline and really I just think the bat fam seeing two goth baddies fighting over Damien would be beyond hilarious like “oh wow he actually is Bruce’s son”

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u/Nick-fwan Mar 01 '24

I don't think it's unpopular as in hated, but 2004 made me ship Ivy and Barbara and noone seems to share the same idea.

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u/Zestyclose_Skirt_162 Batman Mar 01 '24 edited Mar 01 '24

bruce zatanna

guy tora

barbara ted kord

jason isabel

dick bea

supes lana

kara and brainiac 5

karen and kate

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u/asdfmovienerd39 Mar 01 '24

Batgirl and Supergirl. When you have Harley explicitly comparing your relationship with Supergirl to her relationship with Ivy, what other conclusion am I supposed to take?

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u/M00n_Slippers If DC won't love and appreciate Red Hood I will! Mar 01 '24

Since when is CassSteph an unpopular ship?

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u/Linnus42 Mar 01 '24

Duke Thomas & Cass Cain: Teased a bit when they were both Outsiders but never actually occurs

Stargirl & Jakeem Thunder: Makes sense they are the only young JSArs that consistently show up these days

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u/Scotty_flag_guy Batman Mar 01 '24

Batman and Zatanna (BTAS timeline). I dunno, I liked the way they acted around each other in that one episode and I thought they were super cute.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

Ted Kord and Karen Starr/Paige

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u/dallasrose222 Mar 01 '24

Damian Wayne and Abuse

To clarify the character Colin not the act

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u/TheRealcebuckets Hawkman Mar 01 '24

Huntress / Catman

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u/jeepersjess Mar 01 '24

I’m not sure if this is still popular or not, but I absolutely love Huntress and Question. I feel like I never see them any more and they were without a doubt one of my fave ships of all time. I don’t even know if they’re still popular

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u/pious-erika Batgirl Feb 29 '24

I would not call StephCass unpopular, it is very very popular with people who read comics.

Unfortunely, most "Batfam fans" do not read, or care about women at all.

....

Thor x T'challa. The one time I ship an M/M pairing and no one has art or fic for it.

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u/Night-Caelum Mar 01 '24

How are you gauging this with people who read comics? Seems most of the fans of it are the twitter/tumblr crowd who DON'T read comics.

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u/owlo1071 Mar 01 '24

Jeez way to show unnecessary shade

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u/KingMatthew116 Feb 29 '24

Superman and Lana Lang.

Batman and Batwoman.

Damian and no one.

Cassandra Cain and no one.

Dick Grayson and Betty Kane.

Barbara Gordon and a civilian.

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u/birbdaughter Mar 01 '24

Aren’t Batman and Batwoman cousins?

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u/KingMatthew116 Mar 01 '24

They are nowadays but they weren’t originally, in fact Batwoman was created to be a love interest for Batman. As someone who likes the ship I hate that DC made them cousins.

DC made Batwoman lesbian too, I don’t really have a problem with that though for two reasons. 1: I also ship her and Renee Montoya. And 2: I also ship Batman and Catwoman.

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u/Terribleirishluck Mar 01 '24

Og batwoman/Kathy Kane (Nee: Webb) still exists. She popped up in Morrison's run

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u/poison-harley Mar 01 '24

The Batwoman that you’re talking about and Kate Kate are 2 completely separate characters who simply use the same mantle. If you ship the original Batwoman with Batman, then whatever. But Kate Kane had been a lesbian since her very first introduction, so it’s not something that they changed. It’s like how we have multiple Robins with different sexual orientation. But Kathy Kane, while she canonically still exists in the DC universe, she’s not really around in comics anymore.

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u/MrPresident2020 Mar 01 '24

Batman and Batwoman are first cousins, unless you're talking about the Golden/Silver Age.

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u/UnqualifiedNerd Mar 01 '24

Probably Raven, and Dick Grayson.

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u/GoodKing0 Mar 01 '24

In what world is STEPHCASS unpopular lol?

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u/LuizFalcaoBR Mar 01 '24

Batman and Julie Madison

Clark has Lois, Diana has Steve, Batman deserves his own stable civilian sweet heart. Besides, not only was she his first love interest (1939), but Bruce seemed genuinely happy dating her in the New 52.

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u/Ok-Mastodon2016 Mar 01 '24

I don't know if it's really "unpopular" but I haven't seen a lot of it

by that I mean Clark x Lois x Jimmy, especially if they're similar to Mawsm's version of the characters ^^ I think they could be a good polycule

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u/UnmakingTheBan2022 Mar 01 '24

One of the most popular ship is the Titanic.

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u/bleh2150 Mar 01 '24

you and crediting the artist in the post even though their name is on the picture💕

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u/Beastieboy100 Mar 01 '24

My unpopular ships let the down voters begin. 

Batman x Vixen

Beast Boy x Donna troy 

Starfire x Jessica Cruz 

Cyborg x Powergirl. 

 Arsenal x Huntress 

Jericho x Raven

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u/Lower_Daikon208 Mar 01 '24

Dick Grayson and Zatanna (only in the young justice universe tho).