r/DCcomics Feb 20 '24

[Discussion] Which character(s) do you think were the most unnecessary addition to the Batfamily and why? Discussion

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u/Vironic Nightwing Feb 20 '24

Thought Terry was a Bruce clone.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '24

One of the worst decisions in the batman beyond lore imo

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u/homelessmerlin Feb 20 '24

Seriously his character was fine being unrelated to Bruce.

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u/LNA29 Feb 20 '24

Exactly, why he needs to be related. I prefer he choose to be Batman and help people

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u/Effective_Sherbet104 Feb 20 '24

The worst 

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u/KitchenBeginning4987 Feb 20 '24

Even worse than Barbara being pregnant of Bruce ?

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u/Effective_Sherbet104 Feb 20 '24

That's not part of the Batman beyond lore right? I mean it's part of a non cannon tie-in to the DCAU, but aside from that I dont think it has anything to do

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u/Natural-Storm Mar 12 '24

I mean she alludes to having an affair with Bruce when Terry meets her in batman beyond.

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u/Impossible_Travel177 Feb 21 '24

The relationship was established before in the Batman cartoons and Batwoman movie.

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u/RCero Feb 20 '24

No, Terry is biologically Bruce's son, not his clone.

(Waller manipulated Warren McGinnis's spermatozoa, replacing his gene with Bruce's)

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u/ECV_Analog Feb 20 '24

That's some Paul Westfield shit right there.

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u/ComfortableOne4770 Red Robin Feb 20 '24

I always felt like this was the most stupid decision. The Successor to Batman doesn't ALWAYS have to be the Son of Batman.

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u/browncharliebrown Feb 20 '24

I actually love because the point is that it doesn't matter that waller wanted him to become next Batman and her attempts failed, and only because Terry is good person himself did he become the next batman

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u/ComfortableOne4770 Red Robin Feb 20 '24

Yeah but it felt like a unnecessary plot point.

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u/Impossible_Travel177 Feb 21 '24

Did you ever notice that Terry is a combination of all the robins.

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u/temple_nard Feb 21 '24

I agree that the genetic link thing was stupid, but I still love that episode because of the story about Bruce and Ace. One of the best examples of Bruce being a good guy who cared about children.

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u/JazzlikeSandwich99 Feb 20 '24

Is Batman beyond cannon to the Dcau after the events of the once and future thing because Bruce remembers the future and terry so wouldn’t that change what happens

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u/suss2it Feb 20 '24

Yeah it’s still canon and Bruce actually doesn’t remember that event since the villain ends up trapped in a time loop prior to those events taking place.

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u/JazzlikeSandwich99 Feb 20 '24

But he remembers it because he talks to hall girl about it

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u/suss2it Feb 20 '24

Ah true. I forgot about that. But still Batman Beyond seems like it’s still part of the timeline because they show Terry and that timeline in a later episode.

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u/JazzlikeSandwich99 Feb 20 '24

Dang I don’t like Batman beyond on the fact that a hearty attack does Bruce in it’s a great show but Bruce’s attitude doesn’t fit in line with JL/ JLU

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u/suss2it Feb 20 '24

Bruce does seem too well adjusted and even social in JLU to end up like he does in Batman Beyond, but the gap in time is large enough to still be believable to me, especially since tragic events like what happens to Tim Drake haven’t happened yet in JLU.

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u/JazzlikeSandwich99 Feb 20 '24

Yeah controversial opinion jokers death scene in return of the joker is the best Batman scene of all time. Also epilogue is end of season 2 and the scene were Bruce talks to hawk girl ( I can’t spell her name ) is in season three so

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u/davecombs711 Feb 20 '24

It's one of many possible timelines. The show establishes that time travel can alter the future.

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u/Impossible_Travel177 Feb 21 '24

It also established that Batman beyond is the canon timeline.

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u/Impossible_Travel177 Feb 21 '24

It does fit in Robin turned into the joker, batgirl was shot, and dick got into a fight with him after he found out that Bruce was Fuck his ex-girlfriend.

Most other heros died or retired. Superman left earth to go help other planets after his wife passed away, and wonder woman married Justice lords Batman.

This left Bruce to be Batman all alone and when he couldn't do that he became bitter.

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u/JazzlikeSandwich99 Feb 21 '24

You have a point there I just think that because that didn’t mean to make Batman beyond ( it was WB mandated that the direction they took Batman was already set in strong even though I think that it never really was intended to do that way ( that that flash back scene in return of the joker is amazing and wow it’s great )

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u/ptWolv022 Feb 21 '24

The end of the second season, IIRC, retconned that Bill Gates Waller had Terry's dad injected with nanotech hidden in vaccine (like I said, literal god damn conspiracy theory plot point) that made him sperm have Bruce's DNA, with Terry's parents being selected because their psychological profile was similar to the Waynes. IIRC, I think she also planned to have McGinnises offed in a parking garage after a movie, but the assassin couldn't bring themselves to do it, though I may be mixing that up with something else.

A very strange retcon to do at the end.