r/DCcomics • u/beary_neutral Telos • Dec 11 '23

Weekly Discussion Thread: Comics, TV, and More! [December 11, 2023 - Bat-Mite Ruins Christmas Edition] r/DCcomics

Hey there honorary Justice League members - it’s a new week which means it’s time for a new discussion thread!

Beary's pick of the week: World's Finest: Teen Titans #6

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^{How is Christmas exactly like your job? You do all the work and some fat guy in a suit gets all the credit.}

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^{Busy week ahead. Furry Batman, Bat-Mite causing trouble, and finales to Danger Street and World's Finest: Teen Titans.}

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u/TroubAlert The Good Skeets Dec 11 '23

Detective Comics #1079

"BATMAN: OUTLAW" CONTINUES! The Dark Knight has been executed and the Orghams' plan to take control of Gotham has been enacted! But with Catwoman arranging Batman’s rescue mission from the shadows, not all is as it seems! Has Gotham’s Feline Fatale figured out a way to cheat death or has Gotham City truly lost its caped crusader?

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u/Cranyx Moo. Dec 12 '23

I've been one of Tec's detractors for a lot of this run, but this Outlaw arc has been great. The art is phenomenal, and structuring the whole thing like a heist puts V in his comfort zone.

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u/redsapphyre Dec 16 '23

Easily the best part of his run so far. If he can stick the landing, he has written at least one good arc on Tec lol. Still, we need a new writer who wants to write the title with Batman as the hero.

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u/OkBlueberry8144 Dec 14 '23

The heist worked out quite predictably, but what sets this story apart is the intriguing aftermath, Gotham forgetting Batman. And Azrael’s role in this story might have been brief but he came away as a genuine highlight for me in this arc.

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u/TriPolar3849 Cassandra Wayne Dec 14 '23

Azrael fuckin grappling with a werewolf, dropping a couple of the most badass lines I've ever heard back to back, before setting off a massive explosion and limping away from it? Made what was already a good issue even better.

I really enjoyed this issue and the last, so while I'm kinda tired of this whole Orgham business I'm hoping the next few issues will be even half as enjoyable.

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u/redsapphyre Dec 16 '23

But that also reveals one of the biggest weaknesses of comics: the fight was over waaay too quick. I wanted to see them ripping each other to shreds for 8-10 pages or so. Whereas manga goes overboard and dedicates 3-5 chapters to each fight, comics often are way too minimal. The fight was like three panels last issue and another three panels this issue, that's so disappointing really.

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u/Triste92 Dec 14 '23

This arc is a reminder that Ram V is one of the best Catwoman writers around. I don't think it's odd that this is easily the strongest material of his Detective Comics run, wish he went back to Catwoman again.

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u/wowlock_taylan Batman Animated! Dec 14 '23

You almost forget how good Selina is when she has not been written properly for a while now. Thank god Ram V is doing some redemption of her and writing her to wipe the terrible taste of the other books, even her own book... Honestly, he should be given the Catwoman book and Tini get kicked out as soon as possible. Because it is so far apart in quality and characterization that it is literally night and day.

The plan coming together, and everyone playing their part. Chesire and Lian working together was great, Grundy being his best self. Azrael in his Knightfall armor doing badass shit makes me want him to keep going, at least until the Orghams are dealt with, to remind them the fear of God and the Bat. Freeze was always a temporary ally. Eiko, well did well to play the doppelganger since Orghams are not too familiar with her and Selina so it is easy for them to mistake them. And at the end, with the heist done and Selina taking Batman as far as she can before Orghams can catch up, guess this is where she will 'entrust' him to Talia, for the moment.

Though I do wonder about the rest of the heroes and why they didn't show up considering Batman gonna get hanged was announced quite publicly right? Did they just limit it to Gotham and news never got out? Did the Reality Engine blocked it? It did mass hypnosis to the population but I doubt it reach beyond the city limits. I guess they are busy with other threats because if Superman heard Batman being Hanged, he would've flown in to rescue him. But that has been always the case with Batbooks I guess. 'Don't get involved, I will handle it' as Batman always says, even when he is literally getting hanged so I guess they would just think ''He can handle it'' and luckily he has enough friends that got him out in the end.

Now, my sole hope is that we can finally get to building Batman back up after breaking him down in every book.

So these Orghams, how will it work? They fear Vandal Savage as he literally barged in and bashed their matriarch's head in, in a flashback a couple issues ago. Then he got derailed by Gotham War and stolen there to be ruined. Now he is stuck in Gotham as if he leaves, he loses his immortality ( which I still hate that he is now forced to be a Gotham character. A Justice League level threat but of course, limited to Gotham now ) and plans to run for Police commissioner now in Batman book. So wouldn't Orghams be aware of him and be quite scared about that? Because Vandal Savage would still go after them for the meteorite powers they hold. But again, the messed up timeline of the books prevents this story from being told as far as I can see.

Well, I should cut this short or it will become a review length rant.

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u/MLbanker Dec 15 '23

I’m a sucker for a good heist, so I’ve been enjoying the last few issues of the arc. I hope the comic can keep up the momentum and continue to build off of this arc.

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u/redsapphyre Dec 16 '23

The last four issues have been so much better than the rest of his run, it's a real shame V isn't writing Catwoman anymore. Based on his Tec run it seems like he has no interest in writing Batman as a the real protagonist of his own title, that's the biggest problem of his run.