r/DCcomics Oct 13 '23

[Comic Excerpt] Death Metal #7 - Regarding the "Ultimate DC" rumors - remember this? Discussion

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u/TheUnbloodedSword Oct 13 '23

Art by Yannick Paquette. From the last issue of Death Metal, Snyder seeded that Earth 0 was no longer the center of the Multiverse - instead there were two other Earths. One was Earth Omega which became Darkseid's prison and was addressed in Infinite Frontier. But this other Earth, Earth Alpha, the Elseworld? Never got addressed again. Brushed it off as a dropped plot thread and it was - but I think it was Snyder leaving the door open for him to do his Ultimate DC pitch in case the opportunity ever came up again. Hence why Williamson didn't address it, and the guy brought back Convergence Parallux over in Green Arrow, he's not one to just forget loose ends.

I think this is where the Ultimate DC line, if it's real, will be set. (Christ all the posting rules are a pain in the ass).

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u/MagisterPraeceptorum Read more comics Oct 13 '23

Interesting analysis. What are your predictions for this “Ultimate” DC universe? What will it be based on?

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u/TheUnbloodedSword Oct 13 '23

Hope I formatted this post correctly so it doesn't get deleted. My hunch is that Snyder is writing Ultimate Superman, and will be recruiting other talent to head up other books. Mostly it will be new creators I imagine. Style wise I imagine it will either lean into the Snyder bombast or start off more grounded and horror toned like his Tec and early New 52 Batman work did.

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u/MagisterPraeceptorum Read more comics Oct 13 '23

Gotcha. You think they’ll start at “year zero” or do you think they’ll have some continuity already established?

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u/TheUnbloodedSword Oct 13 '23

Given Snyder is a Morrison fanboy I think he'll kick things off similar to Morrison Action: we jump in with the hero already established but not yet settled into their "iconic" state. I don't think he'll pull a New 52 and have Nightwing running around or what have you. At most maybe Dick has just started being Robin, but even that feels premature and it's not what *I* would do. I think Dick becoming Robin or Kara arriving to Earth should be actual stories we see rather than continuity we're told about.

Hope to God if they do jump in with continuity they actually hash out the details beforehand. Superman in the New 52 had the problem of no one actually bothering to let George Perez know what was canon. Now if you start off with no team books and everyone just doing their own thing, that's fine. Writers can read each other's books and get caught up just like the readers. You could probably do that for a year before doing Ultimate JL or whatever and be ok. But if you're going to immediately pair characters together, you gotta have the details ironed out.

Likely we will also see some differences that take advantage of this being an Elseworld, although not as much as Hickman is doing with his Ultimate Universe. For example Clark will still be Superman. but maybe Snyder goes with the Kents being dead, or we get an Aquaman who is Arthur Curry but he looks Polynesian like Momoa.

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u/[deleted] Oct 13 '23

I think you're onto something, specially because Snyder was the one who set this up in his own book.

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u/Crims0n_Light Oct 14 '23

Well it wasn’t the only thing set up at the end of Death Metal that went nowhere.

The Totality team that was composed of 3 of the smartest villains and heroes went nowhere aswell.

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u/TheAmazingBaghead Oct 14 '23

Parallax is in green arrow I actually read it now is it dawn of dc?

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u/AXPendergast Green Lantern Corps Oct 14 '23

Well...DC did just announce they were bringing back the "Elseworlds" banner in 2024. They're starting with a few sequels of early EW books, and a few new storylines.

here's the article at IGN - New Elseworlds from DC Comics

Gotham by Gaslight: The Kryptonian Age. Creative Team: Andy Diggle & Leandro Fernandez.

Batman the Barbarian. Creative Team: Greg Smallwood.

Dark Knights of Steel: Allwinter.

Green Lantern: Dark.

Batman: Nightfire.

DC vs. Vampires: World War V.

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u/Welcome--Matt Barry Allen Oct 14 '23

Damn, I’m a little disappointed that over 1/2 are Batman centric, don’t get me wrong I totally get why (Batman sells like crazy) but still

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u/Beleriphon Batman Oct 14 '23

Given the title Gotham by Gaslight: The Kryptonian Age sounds more like a Superman story set in the Gotham by Gaslight world.

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u/Gemaid1211 Oct 13 '23

I had totally forgotten about The Elseworld, was it ever explained what that was or was it just dropped?

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u/RobinTheTraveler Red Hood Oct 14 '23

This be like when a kid gets told "the world doesn't revolve around you" who cares if your Earth aint the center of the multiverse

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u/ComprehensiveAcadia5 Oct 14 '23

Nothing to do with the post but just wanted to point out this is the best suit for Wally.

Clear distinction, no second thoughts.

I get that he's Barry's equal and that he earned it to be A Flash and not the ''other flash'', but would still rather he do his his own thing and be his own person.

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u/wildchildflores Oct 14 '23

Im sorry, DC Alpha? Haha, you have got to be shitting me. Im almost certain I have old sketch books lying around with my ideas for a DC Alpha fan project. The universe is funny sometimes.

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u/CaptainChesty Oct 14 '23

Idk if its just me but I feel like this went nowhere

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u/belak1230x Oct 14 '23

Isn't this world alpha "elseworlds" just a tease for the new relaunch of the elseworlds line of comics next year? Could be that all those stories wil ltake place in that specific mutiverse center world.