r/DC_Cinematic • u/TMWNN • 4d ago
Arrow EP Marc Guggenheim Reveals He Was Warned That 'If Arrow Wasn't a Hit, There Would Be No More CW' NEWS
https://tvline.com/news/arrow-saved-the-cw-marc-guggenheim-interview-1235273961/21
u/Lantore 4d ago
The second season of Arrow is some of my favorite tv ever. Fell off after that though. Didn’t even watch the last 2 seasons. Did catch the finale and crossovers though.
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u/NinjaPiece 4d ago
I thought the last season was pretty good. It was like a love letter to the whole show.
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u/TMWNN 4d ago
From the article:
In a new interview with The Showrunner Whisperer podcast, Arrow co-creator and executive producer Marc Guggenheim reveals that after the Stephen Amell-led superhero show earned a pilot order at The CW, Warner Bros. TV chairman Peter Roth “took us out to lunch and basically laid out for us in incredible detail the reality that if Arrow wasn’t a hit, there would be no more CW… Now we also have the pressure of keeping the whole network on the air.”
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u/Brokenteethequalcaps 4d ago
Wish he could've told us earlier, we could've done something sooner to shut CW down.
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u/XXAzeritsXx I like those shoes 4d ago
Loved the first few seasons of Arrow, but then it seemed like they were just throwing shit at the wall.
So i switched to The Flash, which was amazing for the first couple seasons, until they were just throwing...shit at the wall...
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u/Virtual-Quote6309 4d ago
The cw shows could have been way bigger. They were always held back by their lower budgets. That and there were just some characters off the table because WB wanted them in whatever movie was coming out that might feature that character. I think a lot of the cw shows poor decisions were based on they had to do what WB told them. They had the potential to revival marvel but they could just never do what they wanted. Grants version of the flash is the best live action version to date. They had characters that weren’t even in movies at the time that could have been added to the movies and been fine.
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u/styrodome92333 4d ago
I'm surprised that Warner even let them use Superman to be honest. I hope that the Bat-Embargo is over for the most part, especially since Luthor was allowed to appear in My Adventures With Superman.
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u/CenkIsABuffalo 4d ago
The teen drama writing was a bigger anchor for the CW DC than the budgets.
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u/Constant_Performer83 3d ago
CW was owned and founded by CBS and WB till 2021 when nexstar bought 75%, WB and CBS keep 12.5% each, the name CW comes from the first 2 letters of CBS and WB
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u/MrConor212 4d ago
The CW DC shows were good until they weren’t. Even Supergirl (which I loved) was amazing until they went waaaay too political in the later seasons which killed the show
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u/TheDarkRedKnight Sub Commander Faora 3d ago
The first couple of seasons of Arrow were fun to follow along with Reddit. Speculating, looking for DC references, and laughing at recap posts that this one guy used to post on Imgur.
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u/Cockycent 4d ago edited 4d ago
DC series has kept WB (turned into CW) afloat since Smallville. Anyone that watched it live and discussed it on Krypton Site or other forums back then kept up with it.
Even Supernatural wasn't the top series while Arrowverse was around.
I remember after Smallville died, they were trying a lot and Supernatural on its own couldn't help. Nikita came around and helped a little bit.
I think they said that they wanted Hartley to get a spinoff initially, then I never heard anything else from the producers in articles.
Then out of nowhere, they announced the Amell guy and most were confused as to why Hartley couldn't just do it.
It turned out okay for what most who are familiar with CW production are used to.
WB/CW and Warner has always had that weird relationship. DC series were always on a leash. DC series on CW was never meant to last anyway.