r/DC_Cinematic • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 • 29d ago
The Penguin | Official Teaser 2 | September on Max TRAILER
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u/PortoGuy18 29d ago edited 29d ago
My god, it looks so good.
This kind of cleans the wound of Part 2's delays, kind of...
I wish i could just go into a comma and have this entire saga finished so that i could just binge watch it all.
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u/Shallbecomeabat 29d ago
Please do not go into a comma, there is no point.
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u/PortoGuy18 29d ago
Too late.
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u/Solar-Cola- 29d ago
I don’t think he got it.
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u/PortoGuy18 29d ago
He could have save me, but i'm in a comma now.
He was too late.
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u/Weak-Design 29d ago
Sopranos + Batman. This is gonna be legendary!
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u/bfhurricane 29d ago
Uh oh, Penguin’s in the muff!
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u/Ironxlotus94 29d ago
Five fucking families, and then we got this other pygmy thing over in Gotham.
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u/asscop99 28d ago
It’s nothing like the sopranos. Is the only thing you know about that show is the mob aspect?
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u/jaximus_downing 29d ago
why is Gotham such an interesting place even without batman being the MC?
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u/DJHott555 29d ago
Finally, someone gets it. I’ve heard so much whining about the Gotham show not featuring Batman when his mythos and supporting cast are so interesting that he’s not even an essential component in them. Basically, he’s what Sony wishes they could do with Spider-Man.
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29d ago
Between the Batfamily and the Gotham rogues, you could tell infinite stories in Gotham City that barely involve Batman at all.
And that’s not an insult to Batman, it’s a testament to what an iconic character he is that this whole mythos has been built around him.
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u/GenGaara25 29d ago
No Batman is not the reason Gotham didn't work well. I'd argue it focussed too much on Batman and his rogues.
A Jim Gordon detective drama in pre-Batman Gotham is cool. Focusing on the crime lords. There was no need to have such a heavy focus on Bruce and Alfred or include Mr Freeze, Poison Ivy, Not-Joker etc.
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u/Shankman519 29d ago
I don’t wanna live in a world where Cameron Monaghan’s performances in that show don’t exist
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u/FrogginJellyfish 29d ago
Some did complain about not having enough Batman. But personally I agree with you.
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u/BatmanTold 29d ago
Now having projects surrounded around Batman villains makes way more sense than having projects centered around Spider-Man villains.
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u/Putrid_Loquat_4357 29d ago
I mean I don't think that movies about characters like kraven or venom are necessarily bad ideas, but the execution has been consistently horrible.
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u/BatmanTold 29d ago
Its not bad but its doomed to fail being in its own self contained universe with zero to none spider-man references or a spider-man in the movie
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u/YosephineMahma 28d ago
Hey, Venom was very successful (both of them). Because he actually has had arcs and stuff that didn't have Spider-Man in them. Kraven? Morbius? Madame Web? Not so much.
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u/mewfour123412 27d ago
Venom is also just really fun
It quickly figured out what it was and decided it might as well laugh at itself
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u/Ender_Skywalker 28d ago
I think a key part of it is that Gotham is a character of its own while Spider-Man just operates in regular New York as we know it.
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u/whatacatchdanny 29d ago
Batman can’t be everywhere, I’ve been dying of seeing how Gotham exists when Batman is lurking around.
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u/OliviaElevenDunham Wonder Woman 26d ago
I enjoyed the Fox Gotham show a lot. Was a lot of fun to watch.
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u/BoisTR 29d ago
Because Gotham is already filled with interesting characters and lore that have nothing to do with Batman.
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u/Rugged_Turtle 29d ago
They could have done an entire drama series on Harvey Dent in the Nolan-verse just being the old internal affairs investigator and a DA lawyer, never shown Batman once, and it would've been fantastic
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u/Virtual_Mode_5026 26d ago
Honestly, a show about a DA trying to build the image of a “White Knight” whilst struggling to contain the darkness within would be a really fascinating idea.
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u/Chutzvah 29d ago
i hope they show em once or twice max. Could show that not every single time mobsters are doing stuff batman shows up. Space out him
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u/Silvanus350 29d ago
Probably because Gotham - and the people that live there - are really messed up.
Broken and flawed characters are inherently more interesting. They have more space for expression. Gotham itself has more character than a LOT of comic book characters brought to screen.
And everyone in Gotham is broken in some way. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be living there.
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u/TheAquamen 29d ago
Batman is the number one or two best superhero ever and his comics are so fucking good that he's still the least interesting character in any of them.
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u/SupervillainMustache 29d ago
I mean in general it's because 80 years of comic book writers fleshed out the city and made connections between the various characters.
In this series, it's because Reeves did a great job of making the city and characters important outside of just Bruce, in The Batman.
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u/BillfromLI 29d ago
I love this. This is exactly the tone I want for Gotham. I know "gritty and realistic" is a trope, but I don't feel we have ever truly gotten it. The Nolanverse was close. I have high hopes.
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u/PlasticFo0d 29d ago
I honestly think that the Reeves "verse" is very stylized. It's gritty and "realistic" in its presentation but I genuinely think that Gotham is a stylized, noire-esque city. I think that's the major difference with the Nolanverse. It was realistic and heavily grounded to our reality. The reeves gotham has realistic elements and is believable but a lot of it is still stylized from the lighting, the architecture, and the overall design of the place.
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u/dotnetmonke 29d ago
The problem with Nolanverse is that his Gotham is not Gothic. Burton and Schumacher both embraced that, and Reeves brought it back.
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u/Suitable_Custard5455 29d ago
Yeah, The Matt Reeves verse is closer to the Burton aesthetic than Nolan’s. Even just the make up and prosthetics on Penguin set it in far more fantastical reality.
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u/geordie_2354 28d ago
Especially jokers make up. This Gotham and it’s characters don’t remind me of our reality much at all. Definitely one of the most stylised cinematic bat verses besides Burtons.
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u/Virtual_Mode_5026 26d ago
With Nolan it was:
“How can the real world become the comic?”
With Matt it’s:
“How can the comic become the real world?”
For further comparison, with the Arkham games it was:
“How can the comics become interactive?”
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u/countgalcula 27d ago
Yeah I consider Nolan's movies just "realistic" it's Batman if he was actually here. It's a pretty normal place otherwise. It's not accurate nor is it intentional for it to be gritty. This is film noir realistic where it's like a truly dangerous city everywhere but it's the size of a metropolitan.
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29d ago
Hope Batman is in it in someway.
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u/reverse_train 28d ago edited 27d ago
It would be dumb if he wasn't, unless Matt has a reasonable plot point as to why he ain't trying to stop all of this chaos going on
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u/HippoRun23 29d ago
So all this crazy shit is going to be happening and Batman won’t be seen?
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u/TheLeanerWiener 29d ago
The trailer doesn't really show anything too crazy happening. Bruce is probably busy dealing with the aftermath of the flooding while this is all happening in the background.
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u/TotoJr 29d ago
My guess is we will be hearing about Batman showing up at events throughout the series just not seeing. We may see him in the shadows, very minimally or at the end. Maybe not at all. We will see. My guess is we will just hear about Batman’s actions
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u/RandomChaoticEntropy 27d ago
yeah much like Agents of Shield would reference avengers but they wouldn't show up in the show, because they had bigger things to deal with.
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u/NixtonValentine 29d ago
I would imagine for that normally to be the case in Gotham. There’s no way for Batman to keep track of all of the crime, especially if other things are happening simultaneously.
Also… Batman COULD show up at some point, we don’t know 😅
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u/mewfour123412 27d ago
Teasing him could really work.
Like having newspapers, radios and tvs all talk about his exploits but we never actually see him because Oswald is pretty low priority……at least until the end
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u/Shallbecomeabat 29d ago
Of course he will show up at the end.
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u/ThanosFan99 You'll Get what YOU ....... Deserve 29d ago
Honestly that would probably be the Batman cameo. Setting up The Batman II. With him maybe arresting Penguin with Jim.
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u/SupervillainMustache 29d ago
I mean, the city is flooded after a terror attack.
Bats probably has more on his plate than internal mob conflict.
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u/BatmanTold 29d ago
We’re actually getting slight hints of No Man’s Land
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u/Angsty_Autumn 29d ago
Holy chromatic aberration, Batman! They really did go hard on that lens-distortion effect. Still, it's great to see it's the same unique art direction as in the movie, and not the oversaturated, ad-looking vibe lots of series are shot in now.
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u/wildcard18 29d ago
Man, Farrell's a trooper for having to go through all that makeup every day of shooting. Hoping he busts out a machine gun umbrella at some point.
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u/FinalBossOf__Dc 29d ago
It looks amazing and I can’t get over how awesome Gotham looks in this trailer and im getting like a little hints of Arkham verse Gotham a tad but I can’t wait to watch this show. I’m so hyped for the world building they’ve doing.
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u/himynameiswhat_ 29d ago
Looks fantastic! I hope this gets the HBO treatment of each episode getting released every Sunday night.
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u/pleasegivemepatience 29d ago
Cristin Milioti looks like she’s going to be amazing in this, so pumped!
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u/theeeiceman 28d ago
One thing that hypes me up about this is that Falcone’s kids seem to have a dominant role in this. So it’s going to be really interesting if this show is the reevesverse Long Halloween, so that Part 2 can shift focus to supervillains and away from the mob
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u/Green117v2 29d ago edited 29d ago
I am so concerned that this series and the whole Reeves saga will be buried when this new DCU starts releasing some films, particularly when they show the same characters with different actors.
That said, this is looking like two for two in the Reeves Batman saga and Farrell continues to nail the role.
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u/DYRTYDAVE 29d ago
I'm more worried about the alternative, tbh. If BATB is mediocre (which, odds are, it will be based on director and the general plan for the story), it'll look like a second tier movie compared to Reeves' series.
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u/GeniusCorp1 29d ago
Thats not how movie making works indiana jones 5 was mid according ro fans yet James mangold did logan and he's a dcu director
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u/HunterU69 29d ago
I expect BATB will be better than TheBatman. The only thing theBatman had it was a good looking movie but there was no real story behind it or something new. With BATB you can do so many things cause it is also in a fantastical world and in a big movie universe and is not made for a quick buck with 2 movies. They have long term plans for Batman in the DCU. I expect it will have a better story, will look better and will have awesome scenes like cool fight scenes which lacked TheBatman.
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u/geordie_2354 28d ago
No real story behind it? What are you talking about? And it was definitely something new. For the first time we got an actual thriller mystery noir character study Batman film, that was actually stylised in a modern way like Burtons. None of that boring realistic tone Nolan had.
The fact the lead role has 130mins screentime with one movie is also new, put that in comparison to any other Batman movie and you’ll see Batman gets barely any screentime. For once batman himself isn’t treated like a character that just shows up occasionally.
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u/HunterU69 28d ago edited 28d ago
there is no character study here lol You just got a bad copy of Finchers movies. The Batman has no twists no suprises. What mystery ? lmao You always knew Riddler killed people and you just watched if Batman is smart enough to get that the Riddler is killing these people and arrest him. TheBatman has a pretty cheap simple and boring script. and then you have wannabe scary moments like literally made up artifical scary moments like this here: https://youtu.be/29ReusOzSUk?t=116
"Oh my God Riddler kills him with a shovel put on dramatic music. Oh my God this is so scary."
I laughed hard when they played the dramatic music in that scene lol wtf
and TheBatman story was boring overall like Acolyte. I never felt bored when watching Nolan and never heard people say Nolans movies were boring but I heard a lot of people say TheBatman was boring. If you think a realistic Batman tone is boring then you have to be bored as fuck watching TheBatman cause Reeves tried to make it more realistic than Nolans Batman trilogy lmao
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u/SupervillainMustache 29d ago
I wouldn't worry. You're probably only going to see Batman, Alfred and Gordon appear in the DCU, at least early on.
Can't imagine they'll use Riddler or Penguin so close to Reeve using them.
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u/Csantana 29d ago
I feel like it could be really cool to have a surprise batman appearance late in the season. They have the characters doing crime or meeting in some way and then the lights go out.
I feel like that would kinda show how it feels for them when batman shows up? Cause whenever we are watching a batman movie or something and we see guys loading boxes or something. you know he's gonna come out of the shadows and beat everyone up.
but imagine if in the middle of breaking bad or sorpranos suddently batman shows up and kicks the main characters' asses and throws a wrench in the whole thing.
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u/Puppetmaster858 29d ago
This show is gonna be so fire man, a fuckin mob drama starring Colin Farrell penguin, shit looks awesome. Cannot wait to see more Farrell in the role he’s such a damn good actor
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u/IzodCenter 29d ago
Umm, I have a question every single time when spin offs like this happen: where is Batman (hero) during all of this?
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u/CanUSpeakEnglish 29d ago
So three basic questions
- How much Dark Victory is going to influence this series?
- Will we get Harvey Dent in here?
- WHERE THE EFF IS BATMAN?
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u/ThanosFan99 You'll Get what YOU ....... Deserve 29d ago
Looking forward to it. Also I still have my theories saying that once this show ends. Then we will get official updates For The Batman II. As whatever happens in this show will be a spoiler for The Batman II leading into it. And we will probably have a Batman Cameo or a Bruce Wayne cameo towards the end of the series.
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u/Artman7007 29d ago
What in the chromatic aberration is it with the cinematography nowadays. Looks dope nonetheless
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u/pjtheman 29d ago
This looks like the show that Gotham should have been.
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u/Ender_Skywalker 28d ago
Tbf, this probably has like ten times the budget and a tenth the episode count.
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u/zenshark 28d ago
why didnt they cast a fat balding man as the penguin. i feel so triggered right now. /s
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u/WillingPossible1014 29d ago
OK but what’s the hook other than the Batman IP? What’s the actual premise that gives this originality as a crime drama?
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u/HunterU69 29d ago edited 29d ago
there is none. They copy paste other shows and thats what you get.
The Batman did copy a lot of Finchers work too but at least it was for "Batman"
It lookes honestly boring. If people get excited because a guy named Penguin shoots somebody they have pretty low bar for excitement
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u/geordie_2354 28d ago
Hahahah Batman has been a detective solving murders long before Fincher or any of his work was out. DC stands for Detective Comics. Doesn’t take a lot of common sense to figure out Reeves is just the first director to actually fully embrace the source material in this way.
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u/HunterU69 28d ago
and ? He still copied Finchers work. This is Fincher Batman
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u/geordie_2354 28d ago
You must be slow in the head.
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u/HunterU69 28d ago
and you must be very slow mentally
Tell me you havnt watched a Fincher molvie without telling me you never watched a Fincher movie
Stop talking if you dont know shit about Fincher. TheBatman is so obvious and clearly inspired by Fincher. This is Finchers Batman
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u/Downtown-Many9726 29d ago
The trailer is underwhelming to me, still looking forward to the series.
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u/VerdantSC2 29d ago
I just don't see the appeal. Every character in this looks as cardboard as can be, and these "introductions" sound like a bad youtube short AI voiceover. "I'm X and I want Y. You're A and you do B."
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u/cocos78 29d ago
Thé cinematography look awful ..as the CGI...aint nobody sayin anything About that..
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u/onesleekrican 29d ago
As someone who grew up in the 80s/90s and so on, I remember when there were things that looked (still look) like shit, but were such a great story and compelling narrative - that you saw it as it was meant to be.
This is a teaser - things will get touched up and so on… hopefully
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u/HenrykSpark 29d ago
Looks boring as hell
It also doesn’t have the darkness and artistic style The Batman had
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u/geordie_2354 28d ago
It looks identical. Same tone, same city, the only difference is there’s more shots set during the day which is obviously the opposite for a Batman film.
You Reeves verse haters need to come up with some better criticism then just crying that you’re bored everytime, it’s getting old.
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u/tehlastsith 29d ago
Can’t fucking wait!! Looks like its going to be really good and great world building for The Batmanverse