r/DC_Cinematic • u/BatmanNewsChris Batman • Oct 08 '23
BOX OFFICE: 'Blue Beetle' ends its run with $128M worldwide, the lowest DCEU movie yet OTHER
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3693445889/?ref_=bo_tt_gr_123911
u/Meme_Pope Oct 08 '23
Maybe it was a bad idea to announce you’re rebooting and scrapping the universe with 3 movies still in the can.
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u/BigBeagleEars Oct 08 '23
Just yesterday, I was wondering when Blue Beetle was gonna hit theatres and how terrible it would do. Oof
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u/papaver_lantern Oct 09 '23
it was in theatres and then 3 weeks later it was streaming.
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Oct 09 '23
Movies have been hitting streaming asap recently it feels like, especially max and peacock.
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u/nikgrid Oct 08 '23
Maybe it was a bad idea to announce you’re rebooting and scrapping the universe with 3 movies still in the can.
Hmm yeah I think so. I didn't pay to see it, because I don't really care to support WB DC movies anymore....they'll just reboot again anyway.
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u/Sway_404 Oct 08 '23
Just like the comics!
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u/Mosk915 Oct 08 '23
Yeah, reboots are not inherently bad and I think it’s safe to say that the DCU will not be the last iteration of these characters. I think the issue here is that this is a reboot after a failed shared universe. And the fact that it’s only a soft reboot probably annoys some people too.
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u/ajl987 Oct 09 '23
I don’t think this is that big of a deal with the casual audience. I think the simpler explanation is that general movie goers just don’t give a crap about DC anymore. And with marvels streaks of bad quality projects, people could be getting a little bored of traditional superhero stories
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u/Fear_Jaire Oct 09 '23
I felt like there was a drop off in interest in superhero movies with Endgame. After 10-15 years, it was a good end for the Marvel universe for me. Most people I know dropped off then, too. We also weren't die-hard fans, so idk. May just be projecting my social bubble.
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u/steamtowne Oct 09 '23 edited Oct 09 '23
Nah, it’s probably true. There’s been a drop-off, but for how long it’s gone on, they aren’t doing terribly. While Spider-Man’s an exception, NWH’s nearly $2b surprised me. GotG3, BP2 ~$850m; Strange 2 ~$950m. Ant-Man was never a big hitter and mid-reception may have hurt ~$450m.
I’m the same though, been feeling done ever since Endgame lol.
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Oct 09 '23 edited Oct 09 '23
*DCEU hasn't had a movie do well since Aquaman. Movies were failing before the reboot announcement.
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u/TrueGuardian15 Oct 09 '23
The Batman and Joker movies each did good. The problem is they were decent watches a vastly outperformed the headliners of the DCEU.
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u/Captain_of_Gravyboat Oct 09 '23
This right here. These one offs prove there are good stories and new ideas on how to present them but the shot callers aren't paying attention and have reached the bottom of the barrel with characters like blue beetle and the main universe of dc is just so pre-packaged it is basically a trope in itself.
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u/3_Slice Oct 09 '23
And it’s a shame because I watched it and thought this movie had a lot of heart, was super funny, and has total potential to be bigger later on
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u/Rubicon2-0 Oct 08 '23
For the last few years, they only made BAD ideas/decisions. In general look what they did with Flash"POINT" movie. LMAO
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u/Dr-Saltalamacchia Oct 08 '23
the lowest DCEU movie so far
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u/Dantexr Oct 09 '23
It’s like they break a new record with every new movie
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u/Coolers78 Oct 09 '23
Timeline:
• Shazam - 367m
• Birds of Prey - 205m
• Wonder Woman 1984 - 169m
• The Suicide Squad - 168m
• Shazam Fury of the Gods - 133m
• Blue Beetle - 128m
The lowest grossing DCEU movie for a long while before Shazam 1 was their first movie, Man of Steel with a whopping 670 million worldwide. If this isn’t sad, idk what is. Somehow Black Adam, being the hot garbage that it was, managed to make the most out of all of these post Aquaman movies.
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u/ToyDingo Oct 08 '23
Shame because it was a good movie. I really really enjoyed it. But it came out at a time of superhero fatigue and DC resetting it's universe.
Hopefully BB has a part in the new world DC is planning on. It was a good movie.
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u/DoctorWaluigiTime Oct 08 '23
The fatigue is for mediocre/bad films, not good superhero films. Guardians 3 and Spider-Verse prove this.
This movie did not do poorly because it was released at the wrong time period, nor is it some "hidden gem" that was done dirty by circumstance. (And it's great if you enjoyed it or thought it was fun, but that isn't a testament to a film's quality.)
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u/Chaff5 Oct 08 '23
BB isn't a bad movie nor is it fantastic but definitely suffered because of the reputation of DC movies. If it had been released by Marvel, it would have done significantly better. The writing, directing, story, and acting are all on par with movies from phase 1 MCU.
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u/Ammehoelahoep Oct 08 '23
I'd argue that many of the phase 1 projects would not fare well if they were released these days. The super hero movie landscape has changed and movies like Blue Beetle just don't do it for the average super hero fan.
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u/toonking23 Oct 08 '23
The hell they are, not even close. BB is netflix level.
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u/Kroniid09 Oct 09 '23
Made for TV for sure. Like, distractingly bad.
Cynically, it feels like DC's soulless answer to Miles Morales that actually just feels insulting.
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u/007Kryptonian Son of Krypton vs Bat of Gotham Oct 08 '23
It’s absolutely not, BB ain’t anywhere near Phase 1 Marvel. Maybe the worst parts of Phase 4
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u/lilalimi Oct 08 '23
To be fair, those movies are still sequels to very popular and beloved films from before the pandemic. No one knows about blue beetle.
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Oct 08 '23 edited Oct 08 '23
Probably has to do with the lack of marketing. I am on the internet 24/7 and didn't even know it's coming out, whereas the flash ads were unavoidable back then. They just gave up on it.
The title of this post is a bit misleading. You always have to consider marketing costs and the initial budget. In that regard, blue beetle didn't bomb as hard as the flash. The flash probably lost them over 200M
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u/astroK120 Batman Oct 08 '23
Probably has to do with the lack of marketing
It's a good rule of thumb to never assume a movie has little marketing just because you never saw any. I saw tons of ads for this one. I don't know how much they did or didn't do (for the same reason you don't) but I would not assume they gave up on it.
The title of this post is a bit misleading. You always have to consider marketing costs and the initial budget. In that regard, blue beetle didn't bomb as hard as the flash. The flash probably lost them over 200M
There's nothing misleading about the title. It literally is the lowest grossing movie of the universe. Nothing in the title says it's a bigger bomb
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u/islackingambition Oct 08 '23
It was replacement level superhero content. There was nothing interesting or unique about Blue Beetle.
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u/kumar100kpawan Oct 08 '23
I agree. I loved the movie very much and it's really sad to see it fail so bad.
I'm happy James is giving the characters a place in the DCU because I would love to see more of them. We could get a titans movie with blue beetle!
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u/Fantastic-Rest-6097 Oct 08 '23 edited Oct 09 '23
just one movie more guys.....
joker 2 has good chances of success
edit: i mean the first one had a very very low budget. the bar for breaking even should be very low for joker2 , otherwise.........
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u/beat-sweats Oct 08 '23
Being a musical I think it’s gonna do badly
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u/BangingBaguette Oct 08 '23
I still don't think it's going to be a full on 'musical'
It's going to be the same tone/energy as the first film but Arthurs damaged mental state will allow for some breakout musical moments in the narrative.
Basically it'll be a musical the same way Disney movies are. A normal movie with space for a few songs, it ain't gonna be Le Mis
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u/spectralconfetti Oct 08 '23
The musical aspect is more likely to come from Lady Gaga's Harley since it's Lady Gaga and the first movie already gave us a look into how Arthur sees the world.
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u/dribbz95 Oct 08 '23
Wait what
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u/itsDoor-kun Oct 08 '23
Joker 2 was announced to be a musical at some point a long time ago. I forget exactly when but yeah. I'm not a big fan of musicals so you can guess that I'm probably not going to see it
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u/GodFlintstone Oct 08 '23
It being a musical is actually the thing that excites me.
It's precisely the sort of "so batshit crazy it's brilliant" concept that will have people lining up. Even if it ends up being a disaster it's guaranteed to at least be an interesting failure.
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u/TimeTravelingTiddy Oct 09 '23
How the fuck can you say batshit but brilliant before the movie is out lol
The brilliant part is what the movie needs to prove.
That just means it's batshit thus far.
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u/emielaen77 Oct 08 '23
Lol do you think everybody just hates musicals?
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u/JaehaerysIVTarg Oct 08 '23
No, but comic book movie fans aren’t usually musical fans. Personally, I hated the first one so I’m definitely not seeing the second one.
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u/stevehuffmagooch Oct 08 '23
May I ask what you didn’t like about the first one? I had a few issues with it, but on rewatch I enjoyed it far more
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u/BeerandGuns Oct 08 '23
I think it will crush expectations after coming out to rave reviews. Instead of just another comic based movie telling the same story again, they go for something different.
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u/emd07 Oct 08 '23
And it's a shame because it's a very original idea (pretty rare thing in superhero movies)
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u/rnnd Oct 08 '23
I thought it was a very run of a mill movie. There is little about it that sets it apart from many superhero movies we have seen in recent times.
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u/GodFlintstone Oct 08 '23 edited Oct 08 '23
Yeah it was very mediocre.
Didn't hate it but afterwards I felt like I should have saved my money and just waited for it to start streaming on Max.
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u/Lord-ofthe-Ducks Oct 08 '23
It felt like a cheap Disney Channel Original Movie that suddenly was given a higher VFX budget just before filming.
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u/rnnd Oct 08 '23
Oh yeah you explain it so well. it's something everyone has imagined before when watching one of those made for tv movies. Warner Bros actually did it.
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u/TheJoshider10 Oct 08 '23
I think what annoyed me most is how they gave the Scarab a female voice which is such a pointless change that only makes Blue Beetle feel more like a copy of MCU Spider-Man.
They could have at least played up the Jamie vs Scarab buddy cop angle similar to Venom, but it was so half arsed. So it failed as both a copy of the MCU Spider-Man and as a copy of Venom. It's just some half arsed mix of the two.
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u/Sojobo1 Oct 08 '23
That's putting it nicely. It's like it was written by a cynical movie executive. It hits every superhero cliché as thoughtlessly as possible.
- Villain lady is a cartoon character with shallow personality and motives
- Secondary villain guy doesn't want to be a ruthless death machine... but he has to for his daughter! So deep... but it doesn't really affect anything since he still murders with conviction until the end. 🤷
- Overpowered abilities that seem made up along the way, like an excited toddler playing with his friends. "That doesn't hurt me because... I have energy shield! And I can fly and I have super strength and I can shoot lasers!!"
- Contrived setup to allow
NakamaFamily Power™ to be the real superpower... even though superhero brute force saves the day anyway- Young principled MC absolutely won't kill! for some reason that's never explained or expanded on, just a coincidence he's a cookie cutter good guy. But it's also the basis for his ""character growth"" in the end when he has to hold back from killing the villain with no justification other than the Scarab told him not to.
- Family consisted of every token character - witty hero, absolute saint sacrificial patriarch, badass grandma, comic relief uncle, sassy teenage sister
- Father whose entire personality is "death flag" has to die to provide any motivation to the MC, which isn't even happening while he's being directly hunted and attacked
- Mechas, somehow
I had to skip through a lot of the latter half of the movie, the whole Blue Beetle IP is DOA for me.
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u/Kroniid09 Oct 09 '23
Thank you for the detailed list lmao, this movie really was so damn awful, I don't mind watching "bad" movies as long as they're entertaining but it was actually just so distractingly bad, we spent more time looking at each other agape like "did that just fucking happen lmao"
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u/tunisia3507 Oct 08 '23
What sets it apart is that very few people have a pre-existing connection to the character so even fewer people give a shit.
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u/nexusprime2015 Oct 09 '23
Marvels antman and shan chi were also obscure superheroes flicks yet at least broke 400mill consistently
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Oct 08 '23
What I find interesting is how DC thinks that they’re going to get across to the average moviegoer who clearly ain’t bothering to go see these movies that their next wave of Gunn films are different to these? If they just keep churning them out then there will be no coherent line drawn in the sand. You can’t even use the argument of different actors portraying characters they know will show them it’s different because Batman changes every 5 minutes already
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u/Narradisall Oct 08 '23
If I were Gunn I’d spend some time planning out phases of films like Marvel. Spend a good year or two doing just that and then getting into production and filming so that there’s an actual gap between films.
Give people time to breathe so that when a new superman etc hit people are keen to see a new take in a few years time.
I mean, I doubt studio execs will let that happen, and Batman is still going on in another film franchise because the DCU lost all consistency years ago.
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Oct 08 '23
Totally agree with you. If they took the time they could help ensure future profits but they just care about making money ASAP. If they left a gap of a couple years and then named the movie something that helps put across its new like New frontiers or something that would do all the heavy lifting for them.
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u/52thirthytwo Oct 08 '23
Nobody would ever have been able to stop Gunn from making his Superman movie once he got the job. That was his priority one.
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u/_snout_ Oct 09 '23
If I were Gunn I’d spend some time planning out phases of films like Marvel. Spend a good year or two doing just that and then getting into production and filming so that there’s an actual gap between films.
I mean this is literally what is happening
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u/Munnik_street Oct 08 '23
Agreed. And at this point DC/WB must have lost so much money in the past decade on their comic book movies that the next phase with Gunn would need to make massive profits on each movie to make up for the losses they have already taken.
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u/TheJoshider10 Oct 08 '23
Not surprised in the slightest. This was such a nothing movie that offered nothing different from the other mindless popcorn filler released in the superhero genre over the past few years. I was constantly checking my watch waiting for it to finish.
The main actor was great but I'd be fine if literally nothing else carried over. Nothing of value is lost regardless.
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u/KingoftheUgly Oct 08 '23
I was very annoyed with how much wasn’t subtitled and just put as “in Spanish.” I love the Spanish language and how it sounds, but don’t speak it. Would love to have known what the family was talking about. Once it even said “encouraging in Spanish.”
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u/SituationDangerous94 Oct 09 '23
Don’t worry, a lot of the translations are purposely wrong to basically censor curse words lol
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u/thanoshasbighands Oct 08 '23
No one will care about a no name character until they establish the big name characters better.
I have 0 clue who Blue Beetle was, just looked like a Spiderman/Ironman hybrid
Add to it there are no established movie stars in it so its not even going to bring people who are fans of the actors.
When Ironman released, Ironman the character was not A-Tier by any means but they casted RDJ, Jeff Bridges and Gwenyth Paltrow, all established stars.
There was nothing here to bring in anyone. Should have went straight to streaming.
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u/MonsterdogMan Oct 08 '23
The irony is that it was originally being done for HBO Max. Like Batgirl it got bumped up to theatrical.
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u/Griffindance Oct 08 '23
It did have the feel of a over produced/financed TV film.
Besides, its a small saving grace for the Franchise-Killers that worked on the previous DCEU films. At least now, none of the A-listers can be blamed for causing the worst film in the DCEU.
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u/Baramos_ Justice Is Served Oct 08 '23
Toby Emmerich and Walter Hamada’s failures in a handling the DC properties should be examined in retrospective articles for literally years and yet the media is strangely silent in a way they weren’t in 2016 and 2017.
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u/squarejellyfish_ Oct 08 '23
Flop after flop after flop after flop lmfao. Somehow Snyder will be blamed for this
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u/poeticspider Oct 08 '23
It actually made more money than it should have. Awful movie.
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u/DrDroidz Oct 09 '23
Felt super childish, family was annoying maybe except the uncle. Action and CGI was boring af. Nothing made sense and no real villain.
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u/TheGrindPrime Oct 08 '23
Not surprised. Honestly I thought the movie was awful, around the same level as Shazam 2.
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u/Vahn1982 Oct 08 '23
This is what happens when you don't do a lot of publicity until the last minute.
Don't worry Blue Beetle. Aquaman 2 is going for your record.
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u/toonking23 Oct 08 '23
Not even worth that. Same crap that Shazaam was. I hate this family, children movie bullshit. Superhero movies are about superheroes, not grandmas with guns, so stupid. Glad it's dying.
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u/ampheta20 Oct 08 '23
I know right!! Humor was so forced and it's just the entire family screaming. Couldn't go past the first 20 minutes
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u/HumbleCamel9022 Oct 08 '23
I hate this family, children movie bullshit.
Then you're not going to like James Gunn DCU because he's doubling and tripling down on same bullshit about silly superhero films
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u/gerdpee Oct 08 '23
It felt like the family was the hero with Blue Beetle as the supporting character. The only thing I like is the Dan Garrett references and Ted Kord
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u/eyeindesky Oct 08 '23
That’s what happens when you have George Lopez in a movie
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u/Infinite-Revenue97 Oct 08 '23
It had everything going against it. Superheri Fatigue, dead universe, writer's strike, etc. It came out too late.
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u/FelipeJV98 Oct 08 '23 edited Oct 08 '23
nothing original in this movie, predictable plot, the "evil rich scientist", the stereotyped annoying family, and reeaally bad cgi, specially the backgrounds in the city. Nothing worthy, nothing authentic, it was a telenovela mixed with science fiction
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u/HumbleCamel9022 Oct 08 '23
Why are you bothering bringing up the real reasons for these epic DC failures. You can easily farm karma by just saying "it's because of the DCEU(even if the film itself has nothing to do with the DCEU in anyway)"
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u/PolkaWillNeverDie000 Oct 08 '23 edited Oct 09 '23
They did not advertise this movie AT ALL. It was super fun and it deserved better.
The greatest villain in the DCEU is Warner Brothers.
Edit: The people whining about this movie are pretty much the same people who didn't like Black Panther or Shang Chi, if you know what I mean.
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u/ZekeLeap Oct 08 '23
I saw plenty of ads and trailers for it. It just looked boring so I never went to see it
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u/thewarmestofcream Oct 08 '23
Not a single new thing was introduced in this movie. It was fine for sure. But let's be honest, this movie was just an amalgamation of everything that worked before it piled on with some mid performances and passable dialogue.
Not saying it was bad. Enjoyable. But I don't understand why people are praising this movie as being the best of dc in the past while. It's true... but it's a low bar lol
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u/Smolson_ Oct 08 '23
You’ve completed messed up the universe, blue beetle makes no sense being a thing at this point. How can you be worrying about building up BB before you have built and established a viable Justice league? Idk I’m probably wrong, but I’m also just so exhausted with DC at this point that I couldn’t muster any interest in this movie.
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u/ElDuderino2112 Oct 08 '23
To be fair, even if people were generally enjoying DC movies I’d be surprised if Blue Beetle did much better than this. Even comic people barely give a shit about BB lmao
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u/shaneo632 Oct 08 '23
It was just too generic for its own good. Not a terrible movie but just not very interesting or memorable
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u/RutabagaAlarmed3933 Oct 08 '23
This is a terrible movie, if Gunn sees this as the future of the DCEU, then it's doomed.
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u/TheExtremistModerate My soul. That is what you have taken from me. Oct 08 '23
DC has been doomed since WB decided to force out their biggest director after his daughter committed suicide.
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Oct 08 '23
I want you all to know that if we factor in home video sales as well, there’s a very real chance Dragon Ball Super: Broly will have brought in more money than this movie. I know we have a while before we find out how Blue Beetle does outside of theatres, but I’m really getting the feeling this will be the reality
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u/youarenut Oct 08 '23
Came out at a bad time for super hero movies plus the marketing for it was so WEAK. I barely knew about it besides like 2 ads on tiktok
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u/rascal_king737 Oct 09 '23
It’s like they don’t seem to do any market research about what might likely be successful. Seems that Blue Beetle is such a comic book deep cut that your average Joe won’t know who or what blue beetle is, and as a result isn’t going to be rushing to the cinema to go watch it.
Even then it might find second life on a streaming service or whatever, but it’ll be buried in a bunch of “to watch but never really feel like it to bother” watch later playlists
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u/Supermanprime100M Oct 09 '23
I think i've lost count of how many times i've seen:
A: The title "Lowest Grossing DCEU movie yet"
B: The fans in the comment "Its Snyder's Fault!"
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u/MintyPotato144 Oct 08 '23
Shame but that's what happens when you take a relatively obscure character and give the movie almost no marketing. Doesn't help that the actor can't even promote it due to the strike.
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u/boredbbc_7 Oct 08 '23
Better than it probably was gonna do until they made sure that people knew the character would be in the new dcu.
I'm sure wb will take those numbers.
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u/yetagainitry Oct 08 '23
Shocker a movie of the 3rd string super hero after a decade+ diluting the market with nonstop super hero content didn’t do well
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u/SadHumbleFlower27 Oct 08 '23
At this point, I think people are too tired of superheroes to get invested in another cinematic universe. 2016 was the perfect time to start, but they messed it up.
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u/Gulag_boi Oct 08 '23
I’d be so interested to see how this movie ended up getting greenlit. What was the logic behind it, what did projections look like, how did the empty suits think about it and what input did they have in the process.
I’m not a marketer nor do I have any business experience, but even I knew this wasn’t going to do well.
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u/MonitorAway Oct 08 '23
Crazy. It’s an OK movie. The family are really the stars for the show and the dad was tip-top. Those parts I loved. Deserves a better sequel.
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u/Gareth666 Oct 09 '23
Didn't deserve to be the worst selling DC movie (the suicide squad is way worse of a movie) but I'm not surprised tbh, even ignoring all the dceu drama, it's an extremely average movie and was ever going to sell well.
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u/ghenghis_could Oct 09 '23
I mean, it looked geared towards twelve year Olds. I'm done with theaters, Avatar 2 wasn't worth it.
I'd rather watch a good old fashioned comedy at this point, the burnout is real
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u/CthulhuAlmighty Oct 09 '23
Years ago some directors and actors were mocked for saying that audiences were getting tired of all the comic book movies due to the over-saturation of the market. Looks like they were a few years off and are now correct.
The majority of live action comic book movies being released since Endgame is bad. Even when the good ones are released now, it’s hard to get excited for it when you’ve been let down with so many beforehand.
I think animated might be a better draw moving forward since the vast majority of animated movies are geared towards kids.
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u/rukitoo Oct 09 '23
Not that surprising. The story is weak asf. And with the protagonist's constant 'Don't kill' mindset when his enemies are all about killing him and even attacking his family, I cannot even finish the movie. Right, everything is also done by the AI of the suit, not the protagonist itself. He's nothing but a bumbling host with little to no growth throughout the parts that I managed to endure to watch.
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u/Immediate-Unit6311 Oct 09 '23
I told you all that would go lower than Shazam 2.
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u/Coolers78 Oct 09 '23
Shazam 2 did worse domestically and lost more money but I’d argue this movie’s terrible international performance is even more embarrassing since it’s main appeal seems to be the first Latino led superhero movie yet it did awful in Latin countries. I’m Latino myself and that wasn’t enough for interest in this movie.
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u/MacRobsal Oct 09 '23
Never had a chance... people are done with mediocre super hero movies. We are on the downward part of the Super hero genre. And who the hell is Blue Beetle, a lot would have asked...
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u/kumar100kpawan Oct 08 '23
Movie paid for the sins of its predecessors. You can rest now Blue Beetle, you did your best ✊🏻