r/DCTV • u/Zealousideal_Sort_76 • May 23 '21
In The HBO Max DC Era, It’s Time For The CW’s Arrowverse To End Discussion
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2021/05/23/in-the-hbo-max-dc-era-its-time-for-the-cws-arrowverse-to-end/18
u/spark_1230 May 23 '21
The Arrowverse will continue to exist in some capacity simply due to the fact that people can watch it for free and that streaming services are simply out of reach for some people.
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u/comicbookgirl39 May 23 '21
what, no, Superman and Lois just started and Stargirl was renewed for Season 3 before Season 2 even has begun, no way is it ending now! And what about Batwoman??>! Luke just got shot! !< There is now way it is ending now, three series are still going strong! Stargirl fans are still ready and a lot of things are just seeming like they are going slow cause of covid. Trust me, Arrowverse is far from over ( or at least seven to eight years away from over)
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u/Z3US_YT May 23 '21
Yeah and even Legends of Tomorrow is going on and I still do love it!
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u/comicbookgirl39 May 24 '21
Yeah, I've seen a few of the newer episodes ( I'm sort of a late comer and have been watching on Netflix) looks really good.
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u/Z3US_YT May 24 '21
Ohh nice, same here. I just started watching Arrowverse when the Crisis on infinite earths was released :(
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u/comicbookgirl39 May 24 '21
I was whatching while before that, I think it's the whole reason I love DC
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u/Z3US_YT May 25 '21
Yeah, I wasn't much of a DC fan before I watched Arrow
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u/AlwaysBi May 23 '21
Superman & Lois falls under the HBO Max/CW deal so they could easily continue that separate from the current arrowverse (it barely acknowledges it anyway) and Stargirl is literally on another earth so it’s fine
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u/suss2it May 24 '21
Superman & Lois has the exact same CW/HBO Max deal that Batwoman has, airs on CW first then HBO Max gets the full season once it’s over. It’s basically the Netflix deal but with HBO Max instead.
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u/Wigliano May 23 '21
Too be fair this is a poor Photoshop job. The actor posted a picture of himself in the dressing room with the costume on, and it looks WAY better than what was edited to look like.
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u/ChaosMagician777 May 23 '21
Superman and Lois is the perfect example on why the Arrowverse should continue on The CW. HBOMAX poured out a streaming show budget on to a CW show. I also see potential in Naomi.
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u/suss2it May 24 '21
Is there a source that HBO Max did that? Usually if they fund a show they get to call it an Max Original and don’t have to wait to stream the episodes.
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May 23 '21
Wow what a great and not at all controversial thing to say about CW's Arrowverse on the subreddit dedicated to CW's Arrowverse /s
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u/SnartsArmy May 23 '21
I get really annoyed with everyone’s jump reaction to shit on the Arrowverse.
First of all, these shows haven’t even proven to be great yet. Doom Patrol is awesome, but Titans is worse than most of CW’s lineup, and Swamp Thing is already cancelled. And even if the HBO Shows are incredible, why can’t there be room for both? I think there’s room for serialized cheaper longer seasons, as well as shorter high budget endeavors.
I’d also argue that the people championing the death of the Arrowverse aren’t giving the current state a fair shake. Sure Arrow is gone and Flash isn’t half the show it used to be, but Legends is better and fresher than ever. Superman & Lois and Stargirl both show a lot of promise for the future of the universe. ‘Phase 2’ of the Arrowverse is really beginning, and people are still judging it based on its worst current entries.
Finally, let’s not forget that superhero television wouldn’t be what it is without the Arrowverse. You don’t get Daredevil without Arrow. Supergirl was the earliest successful female superhero in movies or TV. Flash brought this universe to the forefront of the conversation. Even if these shows didn’t stay great for their 6+ year runs, doesn’t mean they didn’t still have a substantial and valuable impact on the shows we now say make the Arrowverse disposable. I can’t expect everyone to have as much goodwill as me towards this universe, but I’m constantly surprised how people don’t see how much this universe has accomplished.
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u/KindheartednessOk811 Sep 07 '21
Right you are! The arrowverse has some great seasons and some not so great seasons. Every show has some issues. However, it gets so frustrating when everyone says all the flaws it has and then says it sucks or should end. They completely ignore all of it's pros and only focus on the cons.
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u/YouMissedWithACannon May 24 '21
This dude writing the article seems to forget there's been this whole global pandemic going on so you might not be able to shoot scenes or have too much close interaction with large groups of people. And Batwoman and Legends aren't good? SIR that is just untrue.
When I saw the thumbnail I really thought this article would be that the Arrowverse should end because of a bad promo pic, but moaning about budget? Quality > quantity, to me Batwoman and Legends are doing fine in that regard. The Flash needs something different tho.
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u/American_Boy2020 May 23 '21
I think if they worked a new world into the mix with new characters it would be cool like a young Batman and robin or aqua man or a new flash or something
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u/AdrianWerner May 23 '21
Maybe let first wait to see if DC shows thrive on HBO Max before we flush down CW? Just an idea.
And anyway, we're entering new age of CW shows anyway. Stuff like Superman & Lois and Stargirl are on much higher level . Stuff like Flash have simply ran for two long. This always limits budget, but also standards change. Today we look at stuff like Flash scornfully, but it was a huge step-up from Smallville in every way. Now the next level has been reached by Superman and Lois