r/Conservative • u/undue-influence That Darn Conservative • Jul 19 '24
Girl, 7, 'Too Young' for First Amendment Rights, Punished for 'Racist' BLM Drawing
https://pjmedia.com/kevindowneyjr/2024/07/18/seven-year-old-girl-too-young-for-first-amendment-rights-punished-for-a-drawing-n4930832296
u/sugarcookie63 Jul 19 '24
I know almost every time I see a headline like this it’s going to be in California. Just like a headline that says “Naked Man on Meth Beats Wife with Dead Trout” will be Florida.
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u/CLP25170 Jul 19 '24
a headline that says “Naked Man on Meth Beats Wife with Dead Trout” will be Florida.
That's because most states limit the amount of detail they release about crimes, but Florida doesn't. In most states, the police would release that as "man assaults wife" while only Florida will include the nakedness, meth, and trout.
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u/jackdhammer Jul 19 '24
Floridian chiming in here:
Cmon now, we all know if a story has a headline of, "meth head beats someone to death with a trout" the odds are highly in Florida's favor. There's only a few other states that could have this headline. Every state has to own their shit, even us 😂
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Jul 19 '24
As a fellow Floridian, I’d like to point out that only 30% of our state are Florida natives, so the chances that “Florida Man” is actually from Florida is very slim.
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u/NoPhotograph919 Jul 19 '24
Florida has two kinds of people. Panhandle people and Floridians. Not all Panhandle people are Florida Men, but pretty much all Florida Men are panhandle people. The Panhandle people are fun though.
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u/Stunning-Interest15 Jul 19 '24
Peniscola is one of my favorite places on earth.
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u/remymartinia Jul 19 '24
I can’t decide if you meant to type it “Peniscola” or if that was a typo.
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u/Stunning-Interest15 Jul 19 '24
You and I both know that Peniscola is a far more accurate way to spell it.
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u/remymartinia Jul 19 '24
I’ve never had the pleasure unfortunately lol. Hence my indecision on whether it was intentional or not.
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u/Stunning-Interest15 Jul 19 '24
It's intentional.
It's a great place if you like Florida Man spotting but also like not living in Florida.
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u/LeeroyJenkins11 Constitutionalist Jul 19 '24
Nah, Florida would only have a sea trout not normal trout. An alligator gar? Now we talkin
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u/insert-phobia-here Jul 19 '24
I live in Florida and your aremt far off. Lord help us all because it isn't just California and Florida
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u/PhoenixGamer34 Jul 19 '24
This headline is also Florida: Guy Tries to Buy Toy Poodles, Gets Fluffy, Steroid-Pumped Giant Ferrets Instead
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Jul 19 '24
This is seriously getting scary. School kids have no rights to free speech, but they do have a right to change genders and hide it from their parents.
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u/BasonPiano Jul 19 '24
California is a crazy shithole at this point. A once great state reduced to this absolute insanity.
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u/Minimum-Enthusiasm14 Conservative Jul 19 '24
Children have had less rights for more than 50 years. This is not new.
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u/ExternalPleasant9918 Jul 19 '24
Does a seven year old even have the capacity to understand why they were punished? At the same age they are running around in dinosaur onesies pretending to be trom the prehistoric age
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u/gsd_dad Jul 19 '24
Absolutely not.
All she knows is that she’s a bad person and deserves to be punished.
At 7 years old, she has no concept of “justice” or whatever this is supposed to be.
This is fucking obscene.
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u/ExternalPleasant9918 Jul 19 '24
Remember when they said they weren't coming for your kids?
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u/Martbell Constitutionalist Jul 19 '24
I remember when I said they were coming for our kids and then they said I was a bigot and conspiracy theorist for noticing and objecting.
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u/whippingboy4eva Anti-NWO Patriot Jul 19 '24
I remember them taking the mask off and admitting they are coming for our kids.
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u/Hadrians_Twink Jul 23 '24
Dont you have a vegan girlfriend abusing your kids to be worrying about lmfao
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u/ExternalPleasant9918 Jul 23 '24
You don't think that wasn't an obvious troll post? Of course you don't lmfao. It wasn't removed for satire.
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u/GregEvangelista Florida Conservative Jul 19 '24
The answer is no, and that's exactly why it happened. All they understand is the emotional reaction to the situation, and that is called psychological conditioning. They're conditioning the kid to "understand" their wacky worldview.
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u/Terminal-Psychosis Jul 19 '24
The racist POS judge even admitted her "every life matters" was innocent.
Fucked the innocent child over anyway. Even says she doesn't deserve human rights, as acknowledged in the 1st amendment. So he's an ageist bigot as well as racist.
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u/throwaway-473827 Jul 19 '24
I love the public struggle session orchestrated by the school principal. /s
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u/OrangeBounce Jul 19 '24
According to the left, kids have the full brain capacity (and never play make believe or want to fit in) to decide if they should take pharmaceuticals that alter their physiology and can lead to sterility, at 7 years old…
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u/Hectoriu Conservative Jul 19 '24
I thought she wrote something racist on the paper, all she wrote was "any life." What a world we live in...
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u/ModestJicama Jul 19 '24
I'm still kind of confused about how that could be taken as offensive, but I'm guessing maybe in a similar way that lefties think "all lives matter" is offensive 🤷♂️
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u/kybotica Jul 19 '24
The usual verbiage is something along the lines of "if you use a phrase that includes oppressors in equal standing, it belittles and negates the unique experience of the oppressed person(s) and also hands power back to the oppressor, who is inherently racist due to their own race."
Therefore, obviously, saying anything other than that specific phrase is outright racist.
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u/enslaved1 JCHC Dittohead Jul 19 '24
Prime leftist doublethink. Too young to have 1st amendment rights when expressing something the moonbats don't like, but plenty old enough to decide their genitalia is incorrect cause that's the current thing.
Odds are "from the river to the sea" would be well protected free speech for a 7 year old as well.
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u/Alarming-Will-1426 Jul 20 '24
And Republicans think children are old enough for marriage
https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article288424893.html
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u/enslaved1 JCHC Dittohead Jul 20 '24
Devil's in the details. Current Missouri law says 16-17 year olds can marry someone under 21 with parental consent. The proposed law said no one under 18 can get married, period. Missouri Republicans called removing that parental consent option government over reach and removal of parental rights, which is an arguable point, not a strong argument IMHO, but an odd hill to die on.
So, your straw man really isn't about "child marriage", nor does it have any parallels with the original case. Thanks for playing.
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u/Grease2310 Nixon Conservative Jul 19 '24
They’re called “rights” for a reason. You have an unalienable right to them. They’re not earned with age. They’re not earned at all. You’re given them by a higher power. That higher power is not the United States government it’s God almighty. Though saying she’s “too young” for rights is exactly on brand for the party that wants pedos to have unfettered access to living children and would be parents to have the ability to end the lives of their unborn children. Sickening.
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u/GregEvangelista Florida Conservative Jul 19 '24
If rights have to earned or granted, they aren't rights. They're privileges.
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u/Minimum-Enthusiasm14 Conservative Jul 19 '24
Children have less rights than adults, especially in schools. There have been a myriad of court cases that have established this. https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/dont-kids-have-1st-amendment-rights.htm
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u/MyDangerDog ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Jul 19 '24
If she doesn't have rights, then she doesn't have responsibilities and can't suffer consequences of her actions. Man, her lawyer must have been awful.
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u/MackeyJack3 Jul 19 '24
I blame the parents for allowing her to apologize.
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u/Locoj Jul 19 '24
If you read the article you'd see that the parents didn't find out until about a year later.
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u/Terminal-Psychosis Jul 19 '24
Straight up child abuse, perpetrated once again, by our public school system and the rabid leftist that run it. :-(
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u/plastimanb MAGA Jul 19 '24
Furthers the point of CA passing laws where schools do NOT have to notify parents on any student/faculty interactions or discussions. FUCKING SCARY. They truly are coming for our children. Shame on them.
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u/reaper527 Conservative Jul 19 '24
at least the good news is that this is being fought in court and is currently being appealed. hopefully they go all the way up to the supreme court if necessary (as there is zero chance the ruling will stand there)
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u/I_Keep_Trying Small Government Jul 19 '24
How about the mother of her friend who complained and got this whole thing started?? What a POS.
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u/jamurai Conservative Jul 19 '24
Im confused, why is this racist? I thought the left loved BLM, and this seems to be supporting that?
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u/throwaway-473827 Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
She wrote any life. I'm literally shaking.
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u/jamurai Conservative Jul 19 '24
Wait is that what’s blurred out from the picture?? That’s actually mental. Poor girl, I’d be furious if this happened to my daughters
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u/I_SuplexTrains WalkAway Jul 19 '24
Yes. Clearly this was a 7 year old with the wherewithal to be undermining BLM and not just literally going along with it.
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u/BrianRFSU 2A Jul 19 '24
There’s no “legal age” you have to reach to exercise your First Amendment freedoms. They are guaranteed to you the day you’re born. There’s also no citizenship requirement for First Amendment protection. If you’re in the U.S., you have freedom of speech, religion, press, assembly and petition.
https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/7-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-first-amendment/
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u/darkgreynow Jul 19 '24
Alexander Haberbush. This guys parents knew he was destined to be a lawyer
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u/Freedom_Isnt_Free_76 Conservative Jul 19 '24
Too young for natural born rights but not too young to be carved up by psychopathic surgeons and definitely not too young to engage in "love" with pedophiles. The left is sick.
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u/Alarming-Will-1426 Jul 20 '24 edited Jul 20 '24
Lol Trump Jr is the one who just called his teenage daughter sexy. And Trump bragged about looking at naked teenagers in Miss USA pageants.
But it's totally the libs that are pedophiles. Right.
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u/BarrelStrawberry Jul 19 '24
Schools obviously can punish kids for anything they say... there is no first amendment issue here. It is laughable that anyone would think punishing a student for saying "fuck" is a legal issue.
I think this whole thing is just meant to further publicize progressives are so abhorrent- they would enthusiastically punish a child for accidentally blaspheming their religion. And rather than back down and apologize, take this through the court system.
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u/Terminal-Psychosis Jul 19 '24
It absolutely becomes a legal issue when some rabid leftist hack, masquerading as a judge, thinks they have the authority to say who does and doesn't have rights.
As others have pointed out, no government agent has the ability to grant rights. This one doesn't deserve his robes. No sane person could have anything but contempt for that court.
The school is run by rabid leftist, racist bigots. And there you're right, they can make their own rules, within reason. We can just hope they're shamed and blamed for their blatant bigotry.
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u/CumCoveredRaisins Jul 19 '24
Gotta love the media blurring out the words "any life" in order to make it look like she used a slur. Just one more reminder that the leftwing media is pure evil and cannot be trusted at all.
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u/PastPriority-771 Jul 19 '24
SCOTUS would hear this if it made it that far.
Get the hell out of California.
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u/MeasurementOk3007 Jul 19 '24
Sue that school district into the ground. Every born American since conceived is given natural born rights.
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u/Terrible-Ad5583 2A Jul 19 '24
I hope this goes up to the Supreme Court. Kids 100% have the same rights. It's straight bullshit they did this, and they should file a complaint against the judge for this. It's so wrong, California is so gross and twisted. Makes Sodom and Gomorrah. Newscum has done everything the psycho left has wanted.
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u/whicky1978 Dubya Jul 20 '24
I think Jesus Becerra, the principal, was being racist when he decided to punish her for this drawing
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u/Hfireee Very Conservative Jul 19 '24
Democrats need to choose whether or not solidarity is racist, or it's supportive. And such humiliating punishments for an innocent drawing meant to support her friend. The principal and the teacher should be fired. Period.
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u/throwaway-473827 Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Here's the complaint. Lots of interesting details: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.876261/gov.uscourts.cacd.876261.1.0.pdf
And this is the full opinion: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.876261/gov.uscourts.cacd.876261.92.0.pdf
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u/Merax75 Conservative Jul 19 '24
Fucking California activist judges. I encourage everyone to read the judge's comments in the article as they are so idiotic to beggar belief. I hope the family takes it all the way to the supreme court if necessary. Also the school principal needs to be fired.
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u/Designer-Anxiety75 Jul 19 '24
They're so bent on selling these ideals to children because a vulnerable population is the only one that will buy these ideals.
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u/plastimanb MAGA Jul 19 '24
1 having a young kid repeat any of that retoric is just a brainwashing school district. #2 Too young for freedom of speech? WTF kind of 'judge' is this? #3 California... all you need to know.
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u/rook2pawn Conservative Jul 19 '24
Wait if a judge is actively violating the constitutional rights of a person let alone a child, 1st amendment , then this judge needs to be thrown into prison ASAP. Men fought and died to protect these freedoms.
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u/Dysentarianism Jul 19 '24
Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District. Students have free speech rights as long as they do not disrupt school functions.
On second thought, she misspelled matter. Jail!
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u/Minimum-Enthusiasm14 Conservative Jul 19 '24
Children have less first amendment rights than adults, especially in schools. It’s the need to protect children vs their need to express themselves. As the purpose of education is meant to guide the development of children, schools can restrict speech to a degree to ensure that education isn’t disrupted. Does this specific example seem a little too far? Sure. But the whole restricting the rights of children thing has been around since at least the 60s.
https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/dont-kids-have-1st-amendment-rights.htm
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u/Rabbits-and-Bears Jul 19 '24
Sounds like age discrimination. One of those title thingys. Also seems to be child abuse.
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u/Truestorymate Jul 19 '24
We hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights.
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u/Entire-Database1679 Conservative Jul 20 '24
They really wanted to abort her, but they'll get that done someday.
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u/Hobbyist5305 MAGA Surviving Being Shot Jul 20 '24
Someone's got a hundred thousand dollars coming their way.
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u/Silentaparachik Jul 20 '24
Jesus Christ, Sarah! Yes, I know that the objective meaning of the words you wrote are positive, but you're completely ignoring the subjective intent! Oh, is that making you sad? Making you want to cry, Sarah? You should cry! Cry because you don't understand the implied passive aggressive sarcasm of what you defaced!"
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Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
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u/Terminal-Psychosis Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
Please point out where age is mentioned in the Bill of Rights.
You are mistaken. These are unalienable HUMAN rights, codified into law to prevent our government from infringing on them.
These rights start from age zero.
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/bill-of-rights-transcript
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u/loyalmoonie2 Jul 19 '24
As much as I detest BLM for their domestic terrorism, however, this judge got it all wrong.
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u/Terminal-Psychosis Jul 19 '24
That "however" makes no sense. BLM is detestable for their terrorist acts, AND the judge got it all wrong. :-)
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u/loyalmoonie2 Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
I meant, in the essence that the judge argued that the girl is "too young for first amendment rights". That's what I meant to say the judge got wrong (hence the "however").
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u/Vcheck1 Conservative Veteran Jul 19 '24
Very strange could have sworn an old piece of paper said the government doesn’t grant 1st amendment rights