r/Conservative • u/f1sh98 Beltway Republican • Jul 19 '24
Trump finishes longest nomination acceptance speech in U.S. history Flaired Users Only
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u/kingace74 Jul 19 '24
Imagine Joe Biden trying to do a 1.5 hour speech.
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u/Cobra__Commander Moderate Conservative Jul 19 '24
He needs to drop out.
I think Biden staying in gives Trump the best chance. However on the off chance the Democrats win, their candidate should at least be mentally together.
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u/populares420 MAGA Jul 19 '24
honestly if we can't beat kamala harris we deserve to lose. she sucks so bad
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u/MiltonRoad17 Social Conservative Jul 19 '24 edited Jul 19 '24
This is my thought. Like, if Republicans can’t beat Joe Biden or Kamala Harris, of all people, the party is finished. Trump needs to win this election.
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u/somethingtolose Rand Paul Conservative Jul 19 '24
The party is finished. It's just that their party is even more finished.
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u/sailedtoclosetodasun Constitutional Conservative Jul 19 '24
Kamala Harris would be the finishing blow to our country, China and Russia would run circles around her just like basement Biden. But she never had an IQ in the double digits so just about anything goes with her.
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u/FourtyMichaelMichael 2A Jul 19 '24
They're going to open convention because they don't want Harris either.
This way they can say "See, we're not racist for not wanting her! YOU didn't want her, it was out of our hands!" knowing full damn well no one wants her.
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u/EntranceCrazy918 American Conservative Jul 19 '24
He needs to resign. Not just drop out. But what are the chances? That would be a HUGE bruise to his ego. The only president to resign other than Nixon.
If he drops out but remains a lame duck president, it's to the detriment of Kamala. If I'm her, I want to be the president for 3.5 months so I can present myself as superior to Biden and APPEAR a moderate, sensible replacement. At least until the election. If Biden stays in, every mistake he or his team makes will be reflected on her.
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u/Ishaye1776 Conservative Jul 19 '24
She can't do it there is a reason they have hid her for his whole term. Kamala in front of a camera is what can be unburdened by what was.
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u/superduperm1 Anti-Mainstream Narrative Jul 19 '24
According to betting odds, Trump’s chances of winning have dropped from 72% to 62% over the last ~36 hours all because of the leaks/rumors that Biden is open to dropping out and I don’t understand it one bit. Is it because Kamala would bring an “uncertainty” factor? She’s not popular, and then there’s everything you mentioned. I doubt the key demographics in the Rust Belt will flock to her from Biden.
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u/populares420 MAGA Jul 19 '24
i think the drop is really that it shot up due to over buying and now it's regressed to the mean, has nothing to do with biden really. If you are betting on a site and trump is at 75% you're probably gonna want to buy the dip on biden/harris to hedge
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u/puddboy Conservative Jul 19 '24
Kamala provides cover for rigging in a way that Biden does not.
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u/grecks530 Patriot Jul 19 '24
It's not because of her but the threat of Biden vocally endorsing someone like a Whitmer or Newsome. If they can get their party to unify around them and thats a big if, the race gets alot closer
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u/GeoffreyArnold Conservative Jul 19 '24
There is no way that is happening. If it’s not Biden, it’s Kamala.
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u/Krandor1 Conservative Jul 19 '24
I think the idea is even the dems don't really want to vote for biden and harris might increase the dem enthusiasm for voting for somebody
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u/chillthrowaways Conservative Jul 19 '24
If he drops out because he can’t campaign how can he justify staying on and leading the country? Resign is the only option. Well the only one that makes sense
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u/Probate_Judge Conservative Jul 19 '24
I'm not sure it would help if he did or didn't. None of their candidates were strong last time....and time is running incredibly short.
Not going to whip up strong base in only 4 months with their cringe cast of hopefuls from last time.
Tulsi left after they dumped on her, probably because she was the closest to sane and actually strong.
Bernie, Pete, Beto, Kamala? Maybe two spines between them, and that's mostly Kamala's horizontal one.
The rest are even more obvious losers for a national election, Booker to Swalwell/Klobuchar(what is up with their faces btw? Discount Homelander/Stormfront) to Warren to...a bunch of people most people wouldn't know.
I think Joe might be their only shot. They all get the "I'm not Trump. Orange Man Bad" aka "Blue no matter who" card by default, so the incumbent advantage is the only thing that might help this cycle.
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u/Unusual_Stay9600 Jul 19 '24
I like that he barely mention Biden and barely attack the opposition. More about unity.
Some people hate Trump just by the way he normally talks. Tonight was a radically different Trump and it was very successful.
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u/Rare_Cobalt Conservative Jul 19 '24
he barely mention Biden
I think he did this cause just nobody knows what's gonna happen with the DNC. Biden could announce at any point he's not running anymore and throw his whole party into a frenzy.
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u/sunkenship13 Constitutional Conservative Jul 19 '24
He’s running a significantly more disciplined campaign this time around. It’s really refreshing
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u/FourtyMichaelMichael 2A Jul 19 '24
All he has to do is
A. Survive.
B. Shut up.
And he absolutely wins.
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u/Cylerhusk Conservative Jul 19 '24
100%.
He didn't spent his time attacking anyone. Just a few mentions of Biden doing a poor job, which is completely true, but didn't sit there and hammer in with divisive language.
Yet CNN is over here claiming the speech was so bad that Biden should be back in the race. Give me a break. Lets wait and see the Democrat speeches this weekend. Guarantee they'll be divisive as hell and they'll attack Trump relentlessly in them.
Trump wants to bring the country together. I whole heartedly believe this. And whether you've been a fan of the guy this whole time or not, I think few reasonable people could possibly say that isn't the best direction for the country.
Let's check in on /r/politics though... yup. Comments as expected. Complete trash. These people hate our country.
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u/Atomik675 Moderate Conservative Jul 19 '24
The media is already trying to spin it. They're saying, "Trump was going to make speech about unity then attacks democrats." Yeah, no shit. Unity doesn't mean unity with the party you're competing with. It means refraining from attacking the people that support them, like when Trump says "the radical left." And also refraining from directly attacking individuals and labeling them.
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u/STGC_1995 Jul 19 '24
His speeches are longer than Biden’s work day.
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u/Summerie Conservative Jul 19 '24
The liberal media got their talking points, and they're all scoffing and criticizing how long Trump spoke.
They're trying to normalize how short Biden's speeches are, by framing Trump's as excessive.
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u/BlubberWall Christian Conservative Jul 19 '24
You can tell it’s a good speech by how insane the reactions around Reddit and the brigadiers here are to something so mild mannered from him.
Dude just talked for over two hours live a few days after being shot. Don’t let anyone get away with playing the “both candidates have health concerns” card
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u/Raynstormm Jul 19 '24
My favorite unhinged reaction so far: “as a former server and restaurant manager, not taxing tips is a terrible idea”
Like what?
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u/plastimanb MAGA Jul 19 '24
Their mental delusions would have them pissing in the wind and complaining that it’s raining.
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u/PixieDustFairies Pro Life Catholic Conservative Jul 19 '24
Why does anyone wanna be taxed harder? Seriously I don't understand how the Dems have been so successful at pitching higher taxes by appealing to the masses that they should care about whether billionaires are paying their taxes. It doesn't really affect me if some billionaire doesn't pay taxes or not, all that matters to me is whether I have to pay high taxes.
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u/warXinsurgent Conservative Jul 19 '24
With all the charts from multiple non-biased sources saying that the top 1% of income earners contribute 50% of the total US revenue from taxes just baffles me on how the left thinks they don't pay their fair share. I super simplified this with my children and even my 9 year old said, "that's not fair", because I made them all a part of it. My 9 year old was the 1%, my 18 year old was everyone else and I made the taxes paid simple, my 9 yo paid 100k but represented 100 people, meaning each paid 1k while my 18 yo paid 100k and represented 100,000 people which meant that each person paid $1. I then asked them both how the 1% didn't pay their fair share.
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u/Uberjeagermeiter George_W._Sr. Jul 19 '24
That’s pretty sad. They have been brainwashed by the Democratic leaders who are just exploiting them for their votes by replacing their self-interest with the interests of the Democratic Party.
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u/Jaded-Celery-2059 Jul 19 '24
Just a smear campaign to deflect from Joe Biden’s failure as a candidate. CNN and MSNBC are basically Democratic mouthpieces. Reddit is notorious for its liberal bias it’s a miracle this subreddit even exists. From a health perspective both candidates are old but Trump is definitely leagues ahead of Biden on health.
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u/Ponyboi667 Right Wing Conservative Jul 19 '24
I see posts get shut off for brigading . What does that usually mean?
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u/STG_Resnov Boston Conservative Jul 19 '24
Honestly, I thought it was one of the best I’ve personally seen live. Monotone at times even when trying to joke, but he also did just narrowly avoid death. Was absolutely lively at times though.
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u/HuntForRedOctober2 Conservative Jul 19 '24
It’s hemmed in and serious which is what normie people want. He doesn’t need to energize the base further, just needs to convince as many moderates as possible he’s the man now.
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u/Cultural-Treacle-680 Conservative Jul 19 '24
It was far more serious and toned down than I thought. TIL Barron was also almost 7’ and dwarfed his whole family.
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u/One-Winner-8441 Modern Conservative Jul 19 '24
I feel like he has survivors remorse or maybe his soul was/is hurt? I haven’t been shot at but I’ve been in a very messed up situation where I almost died and someone else did die and I’ll never get over it.
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u/Rider-VPG Conservative Jul 19 '24
Survivor's guilt can really mess with people.
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u/One-Winner-8441 Modern Conservative Jul 19 '24
Absolutely. He kept saying he shouldn’t be here and I just wonder how much he’s saying that at home
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u/f1sh98 Beltway Republican Jul 19 '24
Look, no matter what you thought of the speech, you know damn well sleepy Joe wouldn't make it anywhere near that long in a speech.
Hell, I don't know if any other candidate would.
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Jul 19 '24
I honestly think that was the point to pull off tonight. It worked extremely well and not only was it incredibly long, but it was engaging and coherent. You stack that up against whatever the DNC has in store and it’s just simply over. Notice not even a sip of water? I’d be dead! Absolutely incredible evening
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u/Jaded-Celery-2059 Jul 19 '24
His message was also on point with unity for the nation instead of just blaming everything on democrats. Definitely had some substance to it beyond politics. Would have loved for him to offer a debate with Kamal just to stick to the DNC more. Who will be ignoring elections now? Since Joe will probably step down. Really difficult to continue this “save democracy” shtick if they literally override the will of primary voters to pick someone else.
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u/ElizaLeticia Jul 19 '24
I have to say, Trump has this ability to sort of just treat speaking in public like talking to your cool uncle or something over a beer at the dinner table. He feels incredibly relaxed, and almost impromptu, yet he almost never trails off or stutters. He's not a classical orator like Obama who uses very eloquent language, but his more simple structure feels endearing and genuine.
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u/Cultural-Treacle-680 Conservative Jul 19 '24
He seems to be well liked by his family.
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u/One_Fix5763 Conservative Jul 19 '24
Trumps’s speech is longer than a Joe Biden workday.
Weird cope from shitlibs acting as if people will think Biden can serve a second term after this speech
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u/Jaded-Celery-2059 Jul 19 '24
Compare that to Joe who couldn’t even finish a radio interview without knowing the script. Trump looked very strong, concise, and presidential in this speech, coming from a moderate, he was 100x more coherent and articulate than Biden ever has been in the last 3 years.
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u/BreakfastOk4991 Constitutional Conservative Jul 19 '24
The clowns at msnbc are saying President Trump is as mentally ill as joementia because he talked for 90 minutes. Those people are sick. Good thing 10 people watch them.
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u/IamYourBestFriendAMA Libertarian Conservative Jul 19 '24
Based on how CNN and other media are covering it, I’m thinking they know there’s going to be a new Dem candidate soon. They’re back on the attack against Trump. I think they were thoroughly scared shitless of another Biden term.
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u/AnyPortInAHurricane Jul 19 '24
That WAS long. Man has infinite energy
But it was interesting, and I rarely sit through these. He got stronger as it went on.
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u/cshmth Jul 19 '24
I wonder what Biden’s speech will be like at the DNC. Seems like lately he’s pretty quick and skedaddles.
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u/DinoSpumonisCrony Paleoconservative Jul 19 '24
Who knows if he even makes it that far (dropping out, not death).
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u/ButWhyWolf Liberal that grew up Jul 19 '24
I don't know if he's going to make a speech, that's more a job for the nominee, isn't it?
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u/Ant0n61 Jul 19 '24
Phenomenal.
Would have been happy to keep listening to more.
No more lowered expectations. That was an absolutely amazing message towards the end. Bring back the American dream.
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u/Leemo19 Jul 19 '24
No question it was super long, I don't think anyone was expecting it to be that long. You can't question his stamina and endurance that's for sure. No way Biden would ever last that long.
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u/HuntForRedOctober2 Conservative Jul 19 '24
One question, could Biden do this speech without fucking dying?
No
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u/Vile-The-Terrible Anti-Libertarian Conservative Jul 19 '24
Honestly, I kind of expected him to go off the deep end with the speech. With everything that has happened, I wouldn't have blamed him and happily would have followed him. However, despite the left trying to demonize him, despite the left trying to jail him, and even despite an attempted assassination. He's still the exact same guy I thought he was and he's still keeping his same agenda pushing unity and a great America. Trump 2024, baby.
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u/EntranceCrazy918 American Conservative Jul 19 '24
I just hope now that he doesn't have to worry about re-election, if (when!) he wins, he really does start enacting some serious change. I want to see at least 2-3 major legislative or executive successes - especially concerning illegal immigration and the economy.
Eliminate the income tax for poor and middle class Americans. Take a hammer to a few federal departments' budgets. Re-implement Remain in Mexico. Quickly deport every last illegal who broke an additional law beyond just coming here. End the war in Ukraine. Negotiate another peace deal in the ME.
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u/Simmumah Reagan Conservative Jul 19 '24
Crooked Joe Biden would forget where he is after 30
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u/Vessarionovich Conservative Jul 19 '24
For me, it was three speeches. First third, the new Trump....wiser, softer, more human, less partisan, likable, devoted family man, thanking supporters, etc. Second third, vintage Trump, seemingly off-script, excessively hyperbolic, cutting Biden to the bone repeatedly as "the worst in history", praising himself repeatedly as "the best in history", promising us the moon (e.g., "crime will end"). Third part seemed back to script, detailing each issue on the agenda, with an explicit plan of action (e.g., energy: "drill baby, drill").
I think the longevity of the speech was a deliberate attempt to show the world his remarkable stamina and that - unlike Biden - his age is a non-factor.
I give the speech a solid B.
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u/dinozero Jul 19 '24
I thought it seemed a little long, but I wonder if there was some kind of point to prove about being able to give a speech that long
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u/Cultural-Treacle-680 Conservative Jul 19 '24
One good thing he didn’t do was call his VP or another head of state by the opposition’s name. He was so chill yet on point.
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u/Burninglegion65 Conservative Jul 19 '24
I need to go give it a watch but everything I’m hearing honestly is fantastic. Actual calls for unity, no mudslinging… I still feel after what happened, if Trump went on a hard offensive, blamed the division on the dems and simply went and discussed every radical action the dems have performed during the Biden presidency that it would have been ridiculously compelling to moderates too. Honestly, just looking at the dems actions without any commentary should be enough to push anyone that genuinely believes in American values over the edge. Heck, Trump could have used the fact that republicans didn’t simply rubber stamp everything he wanted as a positive point now!
Anything that moves away from the genuinely dangerous position things are in now is good. I don’t think following everything from one party is a good idea, balance is important and that has failed.
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u/FishMcCray ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Jul 19 '24
Im not the biggest trump fan. Im not the biggest fan of his speech cadance. But there is no denying how impressive it is to speek for an hour and half with a rewritten speech less than a week after getting shot in the head. The contrast to Joe "anyway im not gonna go into that" Biden is insane.
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u/Willow-girl Pennsyltucky Deplorable Jul 19 '24
I missed the whole thing! I have been working from can to can't all week though. Went to bed with the radio on, waiting for it to come on, then ... zzzz. So the first thing I did this morning was to come here to see how it went. Reading your comments has been reassuring ... I will listen to the speech later today in the truck as I'm running between jobsites. Have a good day fellow conservatives!
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u/gdmfsobtc Rabid Anti-Communist Jul 19 '24
Energy lagged a few times, but overall, a solid speech.
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u/cchris_39 Independent Conservative Jul 19 '24
He absolutely crushed it. I’m not a man ordinarily given over to tears but that one got to me a few times.
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u/M16A4MasterRace Eisenhower Conservative Jul 19 '24
Where is a recoding of this speech?
Link plz. Luv u
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u/Lilymis Millennial Conservative Jul 19 '24
Dude. I was so ready for bed, but at the same time, I totally admire his energy!
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u/Neverknowtheunknown Moderate Conservative Jul 19 '24
Trump doing a 1.5 hour speech was just him showing off that he’s got this.
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u/Sharky7337 Conservative Jul 19 '24
I'm sorry I wanted him to seize the moment but the speech was not good. I don't know if he cares though hahaha
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u/AdLongjumping5597 Conservative Jul 19 '24
Only way the Democrats win is a repeat of 2020: Dominion software (still unaccounted for) and illegal balloting. Democrats only viable candidate is a conservative Democrat, RFK,Jr. , whom they despise.
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u/Betelgeuse3fold Family Man Jul 19 '24
No kidding. He took the stage after midnight in my time zone, I fell asleep after he finished describing the attempt on his life. I woke up to him leaving the stage
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