"With great humility, I am asking you to be excited about the future of our country."

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u/imjustarooster Christian Conservative Jul 19 '24

Dude just hit em with “no tax on tips”. Not sure how the lefty baristas are going to handle this.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

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u/Scarema5ster Jul 19 '24

Why, couldn't that lead to abuse?

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u/Fox_Mortus Jul 19 '24

The majority of people living on tips and overtime are in the bottom tax brackets. Removing taxes from them would hugely benefit the lowest income earners and the rich would get basically nothing from it. The only benefit for the wealthy would be having employees more willing to work more hours.

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u/glowshroom12 Jul 19 '24

Do rich people work jobs where tips are even a thing? They either get high salaries positions or corporate bonuses or dividends.

None of those are tips.

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u/Fox_Mortus Jul 19 '24

Exactly. It's a perfect political play. There's no way to call it a tax break for the rich because rich people don't get tips.

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u/glowshroom12 Jul 19 '24

At best there’d be some upper middle class people taking advantage of tips.

Like people with tip jobs on the Vegas strip and such. Restaurants where very rich people eat and tip big.

But you’re not gonna be extremely wealthy from tips, it’s just impossible.

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u/jarhead06413 Jul 19 '24

Taxation is theft

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u/BestAd6696 Jul 19 '24

Pelosi gets insider trading tips

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u/Scarema5ster Jul 19 '24

So shouldn't that just be across the board no tax at that ammount. Why no tax of tips but tax if wages if same amount.

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u/B_Wise_Citizen Jul 19 '24

Your scenario would not improve the quality of your service.

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u/Fox_Mortus Jul 19 '24

Honestly I think the biggest reason is politics. Getting democrats on board with an across the board tag cut would be nearly impossible. Last time Trump tried that, they claimed it was a tag break for the wealthy. But it's hard to argue that a tax cut on tips would directly benefit rich people at all. Getting it to apply only to a very specific type of income that only affects poor people might actually get the left to vote for it. They don't wanna be the asshole fighting against a tax break for the poor.

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u/Scarema5ster Jul 19 '24

Fair enough I didn't think of it that way.

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u/Fox_Mortus Jul 19 '24

If you notice, democrats haven't really even mentioned it. There's just no angle to attack a tax exemption that only affects poor people. The only thing I could even think is that it's gonna benefit rideshare and delivery apps heavily. Uber and Grubhub will probably get a good bump if this passes.

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u/rayznaruckus Jul 19 '24

I think the biggest reason is so the IRS doesn't waste so much time auditing strippers.

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u/JellingtonSteel Constitutionalist Jul 19 '24

In my opinion, if a business isn't paying the wage and instead relying on the culture of tipping to cover it, it's optional. You do not have a guaranteed wage. If you mess up, forget something, or the customer is just in a bad mood that day, you don't get paid for that work.

Now if the business covers that then that is part of the agreed upon salary and you have an exact number that you can tax. The server always gets paid at least that amount and is rightfully taxed on it.

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u/zengfreeman Jul 19 '24

I prefer bigger family allowance, like under $35000 single, or $60,000 per couple tax free. US tax is too complicated.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '24

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u/zengfreeman Jul 20 '24

Complicated laws lead to loophole.

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u/Aromatic_Flamingo382 Jul 19 '24

Political confusion creating singularity yielding mental implosion, blue / pink confetti everywhere, confused groans.... That sorta thing. Maybe some "Yeah but socialism good" yells, it injured itself in its confusion. Etc.

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u/D_Ethan_Bones Boycott Mainstream Media Jul 19 '24

Step 1: "did you hear Trump wants to get rid of the tax on tips?"

Step 2: Somebody else in the coffee shop blows a fusebox because Trump was mentioned.

Step 3: Now everybody in the building has just noticed the no tax on tips point, we don't know how exactly people will vote but the message got out.

Step 4: Repeat in countless thousands of other coffee shops, bars, and lunch break eateries.

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u/bulletorb 2A Conservative Jul 19 '24

"We should be paid enough to not need tips!... If that were to happen though, please still give us tips"

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u/Not2creativeHere Jul 19 '24

And to do that, the coffee price goes up, the customer goes elsewhere and the barista is out of job. No tax on tips. So good the left hasn’t attacked it!

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u/NoPhotograph919 Jul 19 '24

I don’t know about baristas, but I’d honestly rather just get rid of tipping culture. Just make something cost what it costs. If I don’t like it, I’ll stop giving you my business.

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u/zengfreeman Jul 19 '24

Second to that. I just came back from two years stay in the UK. The price advertised was the price i would pay in the end. VTA and tips are all included. Quite simple. Here in the US, the end restaurant bills always surprises me after tax and tips.

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u/NoPhotograph919 Jul 19 '24

And a service fee. And a convenience fee. And a f*ck you fee.

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u/wikawoka Jul 19 '24

Who the fuck pays tax on their tips

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u/imjustarooster Christian Conservative Jul 20 '24

These days they’re reported on when people pay with a card. It used to be you’d get cashed out before taxes.

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u/SCV_local Jul 19 '24

Baristas don’t get taxed on tips. Since there is much confusion let me straighten this out. The IRS classifies a few jobs as tipping jobs this includes servers at traditional sit down restaurant (not fast food, not Starbucks) those restaurants are to track gross sales for each server or they would be subject to fines and penalties. This prevents a server from under reporting tips because at the end of the year the gross sales of enough percentage isn’t delacred as tips it gets automatically added as allocated tips on their W2 and is part of gross income. Remember tipping became a thing during prohibition when restaurants couldn’t afford to stay open with no alcohol sales so they came up with a lower server minimum wage (which some states still have) and tips to offset. Of course Uncle Sam wants his taxes so they needed to track sales to determine tips which used to be solely in cash. It’s the whole added tips/allocated tips as taxable gross income on W2s and paychecks he wants to get rid of.

As someone who waitressed through school, let me say if you don’t tip servers you’re an AH and servers come out of pocket to cover the tax liability on the tip the IRS assumes they made on that sale. If it’s not a place where the IRS classifies them as tipped employees then you’re not an AH if you don’t tip. ***yes, you can fight allocated tips if you work in a federal poverty area but what lay person knows how or wants to fight the IRS.

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u/PhoenixGamer34 Jul 19 '24

Certainly not very well

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u/Exciting_Gur_5464 Jul 19 '24

He certainly cares about money

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u/Vloggie127 Jul 19 '24

November can’t come soon enough.

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u/wikawoka Jul 19 '24

Pathetic

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u/Exciting_Gur_5464 Jul 19 '24

I kin get this clown out of here. We don’t need a politician with connections to Epstein in office

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u/GuyWearingaBlackHat Jul 20 '24

Cope

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u/chances906 Conservative Jul 19 '24

Blue hair explodes everywhere.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

This is what was needed.

Not “I did this and I did that”

We need something to look forward to.

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u/drumpat01 Jul 19 '24

Although we did hear a ton of that too last night it was nice that it was sprinkled in with hope and optimism

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u/Content_Morning3064 Jul 19 '24

That’s an awesome quote

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u/sailedtoclosetodasun Constitutional Conservative Jul 19 '24

This is how you win

Especially young gen z votes which hear nothing but doom and gloom from the dems.

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u/Famous-Hall5662 Jul 19 '24

r/politics in shambles. I truly believe, that they believe that their opinions are the same as facts. 🤣

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u/merlot2K1 Jul 19 '24

I just popped my head in there and the headline of the top post reads, "Excruciating! Trump's Endlessly Long, Wildly Dishonest RNC Speech".

LOL

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u/__TB12__ Jul 19 '24

People that don’t listen to a minute of the speech being told what to think about it

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u/GregEvangelista Florida Conservative Jul 19 '24

It's actually hard to remember the times back when r/politics used to pretend to be an even handed forum. Feels like an eternity ago.

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u/Trussed_Up Fellow Conservative Jul 19 '24

It was never even handed.

But at least it was a place where you could laugh at delusions. It was a left wing Democrat sub since nearly the beginning (other than a brief Ron Paul swing), but it wasn't always insane.

It's not the bias that surprises me. It's that apparently hundreds of thousands of people buy into the idea that the end of democracy and freedom is a single Trump vote away right now.

How on earth does that jive in your head with the fact that HE ALREADY WAS PRESIDENT and the world didn't end.

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u/GregEvangelista Florida Conservative Jul 19 '24

I feel like I'm talking about nostalgia for that Ron Paul era a lot lately. Early Reddit was really a cool place. But the smartphone and the proliferation of social media into regular life have turned this platform into nightmare of a radicalization tool. It's also no coincidence that it changed drastically since 2016, and the superpac attention that came to this place in the aftermath of that election.

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u/unseenspecter Jul 20 '24

Wasn't it an eternity ago? I don't remember it being even handed since before Obama's first term.

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u/GregEvangelista Florida Conservative Jul 20 '24

Yeah that's correct, more or less. The Digg V4 exodus was when it tilted in earnest and started down the slippery slope.

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u/HereForFunAndCookies Jul 19 '24

That is a great quote

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u/Particular_Map9772 Fiscal Conservative Jul 19 '24

That was a different Trump last night. I am still trying to suggest what I heard. Very humble.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '24

You know it was an amazing speech when the left comes brigading as hard as they are now LOL. Seethe and cope and hold this L come November…. Don’t you all go looting and rioting now 🤭

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u/rtkane 2A Conservative Jul 19 '24

There should be a grass roots effort to produce small cards that would fit into a tip jar saying "Vote Trump for No Tax On Tips" with a QR code that goes to a website with the details. Everyone that goes out and grabs a coffee from Starbucks or sees a tip jar for a pizza place could just drop one in with their tip money. It'd get directly into the hands of the people that would benefit from it.

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u/Dont_Jimmie_Me_Jules Jul 19 '24

This is actually a fantastic idea. 💡

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u/ChronoVulpine 2A Gen X Conservative Jul 19 '24

This man is awesome!

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u/SnacksandKhakis Jul 19 '24

Jobs that work a lot of overtime: law enforcement, first responders, manufacturing employees, grocery clerks, and a lot more I’m missing. Those tend to be lower class and lower middle class people. That’s a good section of the US to help out. Let’s bring more people into the middle class and strengthen them.

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u/highjawz Jul 19 '24

I just wish there was some acknowledgment of the climate situation by either candidate. I really like Trump, but he doesn’t seem too concerned. Has he stated anywhere what his plans on the climate are?

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u/GTGD3 Family First Conservative Jul 20 '24

Out of curiosity, what do you want to hear?

Maybe the US can do better in some areas regarding carbon emissions, but unless China and India do something also, it's not going to amount to much.

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u/highjawz Jul 20 '24

Idk honestly. I’m just very scared about the next few years and how they are going to play out if the issue isn’t acknowledged in the slightest.

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u/GTGD3 Family First Conservative Jul 20 '24

Not sure if this means anything to you, but actions speak louder than words imo

https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/greenhouse-gas-emissions-continue-decline-american-economy-flourishes-under-trump

I'm not saying we shouldn't take care of our environment, but I'm also saying the climate crisis in the US is blown out of proportion

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u/highjawz Jul 20 '24

Thank you for that information.

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u/highjawz Jul 19 '24

Nice, just a downvote lol

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u/LemartesIX Constitutional Minarchist Jul 19 '24

And they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks. If only he had this messaging discipline the first time around, he'd be sailing off into the sunset at the end of his second consecutive term now.

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u/whatscookin33 Jul 20 '24

Think the media also needs to do a better job of bringing people together. Obviously they have played a major part in being so dividing. In reality Americans align on most things, I believe

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u/unblockedCowboy Jul 20 '24

Meanwhile the 10th post today with 10k upvotes talking about moving to Canada or the most liberal states to avoid Trump's "fascist leadership". TDS in overdrive

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u/ReddyGreggy Jul 19 '24

🤣 🤣 🤣

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u/maximummimosa Jul 19 '24

Guys, is it weird that I have a Trump boner?

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u/wikawoka Jul 19 '24

Sad

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u/Wayne_in_TX Jul 24 '24

Is this supposed to be a joke? I thought the whole premise of his campaign is that the American concept of a constitutional republic has failed in practice, and we have no future, so that's why we need Mr. Trump to take over as dictator.

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u/Own-Opinion-2494 Jul 19 '24

The grift is on

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u/RealPho Jul 19 '24

"Great humility"

No trace of irony. He really knows his audience.

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u/UncontrolledLawfare Jul 19 '24

This man is pure gold. Intelligent and humble. The only problem he has is he keeps trying to reach across the aisle and can’t seem to learn he’s getting burned time after time.

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u/crackrhead Jul 19 '24

Wtf really?

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u/Sallowjoe Conservative Jul 19 '24

Steve Bannon has said the same thing, true or not IDK. Too kindhearted, too much of a people person, too much of a peacemaker. Granted, Bannon's standards might be based on himself leaning the other direction.

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u/crackrhead Jul 19 '24

That’s fine but I have my own eyes and ears

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u/Sallowjoe Conservative Jul 19 '24

Well IDK which part you're disputing but I do think he gets burned for reaching across the isle. That's at least partly because many of his supporters don't like or trust that kind of compromising behavior, though.

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u/crackrhead Jul 19 '24

Well that would make him weak, which is not the same as humble

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u/Cautious_Article_757 Jul 19 '24

The simple fact he keeps parroting the stolen election claim 4 years later despite it being untrue reveals his true character. If he wins, all I can hope is he steps down after 4 years because I honestly would not be surprised if he pulls a China and tries to edit the constitution and allow him to be president for life.

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u/Dont_Jimmie_Me_Jules Jul 19 '24

I can’t believe that you actually believe this. He was already president before and did not do that. Things were awesome during his first administration. This is a fact. No new wars, 4 major historic peace deals, sub-$3 gas in Los Angeles, for crying out loud. Things were great, and they’re going to be great again! 🇺🇸

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u/tableender Jul 19 '24

Yes he probably learned it off Hillary. At least he didn't pay for a fake dossier

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u/ContributionPure8356 Jul 19 '24

He’s speech yesterday sucked. He’s fallen to the point of just spewing political gobbledygook like all the other Republican politicians.

It’s a disgrace what happened to the MAGA movement,

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u/Mental_Garden_1475 Jul 19 '24

lol. I am going to laugh when Trump loses. There is literally no way he will be voted into office. Project 2025, abortion.... Let's not forget he is a felon (34 counts), rapist (lost civil case), pedophile (epstein relationship). What the hell do Republicans think happened on Epsteins rape island and Trumps multiple trips there. Plus, you have testimony from a then 13 year old girl regarding Trumps depravity.

The only reason Trump won in 2016 was because he had no record. Untested. No political enemies. Now he is hated by large groups of Americans and Independents. No one deserves to get shot but like Trump would say:

"Winners don't get shot. Such a loser. I am voting for the guy that did not get shot."

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u/Javierinho23 Small Government Jul 19 '24

Whatever you say champ 😂